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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif"'>Nyaki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif"'>Unfortunately
the data collected by the Skills Taskforce with the help of Prof. Waema mainly
focused on the first degree not postgraduate. I however agree with Tim that we have
quite a number of postgraduates in IT and Engineering from all our universities.
It is unfortunate that such data is not easily available for Collins and others
who are interested in such information. Perhaps the Ministry of Education, IDRC
(or other donor) or KICTB need to explore funding for such a study and the
development of a National Skills database? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Catherine Adeya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> emuchiri@andestbites.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] University Education in Traditional Computer
Science.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tim,<br>
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But I also wonder do the Skills Taskforce team have any statistics that would
further help Collin's concern. There are many of these people out there in
Kenya. <br>
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Collins, that Registrar needs to go back to 'school'.<br>
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Nyaki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mwololo Tim <timwololo@gmail.com><br>
<b>To:</b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon, October 18, 2010 2:11:10 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] University Education in Traditional Computer
Science.<br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Collins,<br>
This registrar must be very ignorant - one wonders how he became a registrar if
he does not know what happens in the few universities we have. We have had PhDs
in Computer Science/Informatics since the 1980s/90s in this country, largely
trained abroad. In our School of Computing and Informatics, we have a number PhDs
and we have produced a number through our PhD program. I am at the moment
supervising 4 PhD students and my colleagues are supervising others as well. In
addition, we have graduated tens of Masters and Postgraduate Diploma graduates
year on year since the 1980s. I have not done any research on the numbers in
all the universities but this was an alarming statement and hence the quick
reaction. Please be careful about your sources of information. tim waema</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM, [ Brainiac ] <<a
href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal>An interesting discussion i had this morning with one of the
registrars in a public university presents a very dire and wanting situation in
education in Computer Science. (Pure & applied) whose conclusion was pretty
much that there just arent postgraduates in computer science in the country. It
came as a shocker and since my background is in Engineering and IT, i am
inclined to ask... <br>
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What is the status of manpower in the country in the discipline? how many
people can qualify as lecturers, associate lecturers and professors in the
science? <br clear=all>
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Collins Areba.<br>
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