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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hallo Robert,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Am glad you now realize that it can be very difficult to play a
football match with ones legs tied together and the goal sealed because
basically one can attempt to hop around the field but you cannot kick any ball
or score any goal. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>KIXP traffic would probably be much, much higher and in return
the bandwidth costs to all these entities who are developing content and having
to go through the various arrangements would be lower. It helps to know that Kenyan
entities that peer at IXPs such as the Oregon Internet Exchange Point, London
Internet Exchange Point, Amsterdam Internet Exchange Point are not requested
for a license since the regulations in those countries do not require it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In a nutshell, Industry is willing and would like to work with
government to ensure we not only grow local content but host it locally as much
as possible. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t know about the KICT Board and to what extent they would be
willing to work with KIXP to get this done. The Kenya ICT Board and TESPOK have
not had any discussion around this but it can be explored and we shall share
any new developments with all. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The main challenge is with the way regulation is worded and its long
term implications. In fact KIXP has no problem being licensed so long as the
license can allow for growth and actual but not perceived development of the
industry. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If web developers are all hosting their local content abroad
that is capital flight to other economies since locally CCK did introduce a Content
Provider license that anyone interested in sharing their content may eventually
have to apply for, especially if you were to connect to KIXP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The limit on whom KIXP can allow to peer lies with the
Communications Commission of Kenya and not the Kenya ICT Board. I however, believe
it is not cast in stone and the consultations that began in 2004 on the IXP license
shall be re-opened. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is our hope that we can be allowed at the very least to kick
the ball around to any player on the pitch even though the goal post will
remain sealed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036 <br>
Cell: +254 721 713 504 <br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><br>
<b><i>“Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction </i></b><br>
<b><i>within the Industry and Government”</i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> robert yawe
[mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tespok@tespok.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Fiona,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the response, it helps to clarify an issue so
that some of us stone throwers can refrain, but that can only happen when we
are in the picture.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>I believe from this response from KIXP is that the ministry
of information and by extension the ICTBoard are not being truthful
when they keep making it seem that the ISPs are refusing to lower their tariffs
because they are greedy.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Can the usual culprits please put this issue to rest, we
seriously need to keep local content local and it is unfortunate if the
government is just giving lip service to this issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Again Fiona thank you for clearing the issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fiona Asonga <tespok@tespok.co.ke><br>
<b>To:</b> robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thu, 30 September, 2010 16:05:33<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hallo Robert,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The joining requirements I have shared are based on CCK’s
license to KIXP. KIXP has been shut down once and we definitely are careful not
to get shut down again by CCK.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Incidentally, KIXP is the only licensed IXP in Africa and one of
the few license regulated IXP in the world with conditions that bar the IXP
from offering services to non-licensed entities even when it is obvious that
these entities are providing valuable service that would make sense if shared
to the public by all peering members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If government or rather CCK would be willing to review the
several proposals TESPOK has so far tabled based on international best practice
we would most probably be able to get a wider range of service providers into
the IXP. At the end of the day even government will be expected by the industry
to operate their IXP as per the similar stringent rules/guidelines that have
been applied to KIXP. We hope it will not be a case of preaching water and
drinking wine. I actually think government setting up their IXP and applying
the same rules that have been applied on KIXP will actually work out well for
the industry and look forward to it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We would love to welcome as may peering members as space can
allow but our hands are tied.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036 <br>
Cell: +254 721 713 504 <br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><br>
<b><i>“Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction </i></b><br>
<b><i>within the Industry and Government”</i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>robert yawe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tespok@tespok.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Seems TESPOK does not really want new entrants, Ndemo where
is your exchange point we need saving or could ICTBoard bankroll the setting up
of a neutral exchange point I believe at least one of the entrants for the
world bank funding had such a proposal, I am guessing just incase someone
takes this as conversing .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Regards<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Fiona Asonga <tespok@tespok.co.ke><br>
<b>To:</b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed, 29 September, 2010 13:59:07<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hallo Brian,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The basic requirements for joining KIXP is </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>An interested party has to be a licensed operator. That is holds
a valid CCK issued operator’s license.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Be willing to abide by the internal TESPOK policies and peering
code of conduct </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
<b><i><span style='color:#004080'>“Industry voice in Telecommunications,
Providing Policy and Direction </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Brian Munyao Longwe
[mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tespok@tespok.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Fiona,<br>
<br>
It might be beneficial to post the KIXP membership requirements on this list -
just in case there might be others who would be interested in joining and may
be facing similar challenges to Robert.<br>
<br>
Let private sector lead by example with "Freedom of Information" :o)<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Fiona Asonga <<a
href="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke" target="_blank">tespok@tespok.co.ke</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hallo Agosta<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The link you provided has since been changed but thanks for taking the initiative
to circulate the information.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:00 AM, robert yawe <<a
href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>>
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<p>> Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> How does one get connected to KIXP and what are the charges, we run a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> website, yes locally hosted, but unfortunately the experience is
different<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> depending on the ISP the client is connecting from, at times we have
noted<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> traffic being rerouting through the international link because a particular<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> ISPs KIXP pipe is full.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>> Robert Yawe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> KAY System Technologies Ltd<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>> Kenya<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<o:p></o:p></p>
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