<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>Hi Fiona,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for the response, it helps to clarify an issue so that some of us stone throwers can refrain, but that can only happen when we are in the picture.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I believe from this response from KIXP is that the ministry of information and by extension the ICTBoard are not being truthful when they keep making it seem that the ISPs are refusing to lower their tariffs because they are greedy.</div><div><br></div><div>Can the usual culprits please put this issue to rest, we seriously need to keep local content local and it is unfortunate if the government is just giving lip service to this issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Again Fiona thank you for clearing the
issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Fiona Asonga <tespok@tespok.co.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 30 September, 2010 16:05:33<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity<br></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Hallo Robert,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The joining requirements I have shared are based on CCK’s
license to KIXP. KIXP has been shut down once and we definitely are careful not
to get shut down again by CCK.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Incidentally, KIXP is the only licensed IXP in Africa and one of
the few license regulated IXP in the world with conditions that bar the IXP
from offering services to non-licensed entities even when it is obvious that
these entities are providing valuable service that would make sense if shared
to the public by all peering members.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">If government or rather CCK would be willing to review the several
proposals TESPOK has so far tabled based on international best practice we
would most probably be able to get a wider range of service providers into the
IXP. At the end of the day even government will be expected by the industry to
operate their IXP as per the similar stringent rules/guidelines that have been
applied to KIXP. We hope it will not be a case of preaching water and drinking
wine. I actually think government setting up their IXP and applying the same
rules that have been applied on KIXP will actually work out well for the
industry and look forward to it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">We would love to welcome as may peering members as space can
allow but our hands are tied.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036 <br>
Cell: +254 721 713 504 <br>
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<b><i>“Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction </i></b><br>
<b><i>within the Industry and Government”</i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">
kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>robert yawe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tespok@tespok.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seems TESPOK does not really want new entrants, Ndemo where
is your exchange point we need saving or could ICTBoard bankroll the setting up
of a neutral exchange point I believe at least one of the entrants for the
world bank funding had such a proposal, I am guessing just incase someone
takes this as conversing .</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> Fiona Asonga <tespok@tespok.co.ke><br>
<b>To:</b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed, 29 September, 2010 13:59:07<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Hallo Brian,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The basic requirements for joining KIXP is </span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D;">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">An interested party has to be a licensed operator. That is holds
a valid CCK issued operator’s license.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D;">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Be willing to abide by the internal TESPOK policies and peering
code of conduct </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br>
<b><i><span style="color:#004080;">“Industry voice in Telecommunications,
Providing Policy and Direction </span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> Brian Munyao Longwe
[mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tespok@tespok.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Hi Fiona,<br>
<br>
It might be beneficial to post the KIXP membership requirements on this list -
just in case there might be others who would be interested in joining and may
be facing similar challenges to Robert.<br>
<br>
Let private sector lead by example with "Freedom of Information" :o)<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Brian</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Fiona Asonga <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke">tespok@tespok.co.ke</a>>
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<p>Hallo Agosta</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The link you provided has since been changed but thanks for taking the
initiative to circulate the information.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Robert, kindly contact TESPOK off list and you shall be assisted.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Kind Regards,</p>
<p> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fiona Asonga <br>
Chief Executive Officer <br>
Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ <br>
Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>
14<sup>th</sup> Floor, Bruce House <br>
Standard Street <br>
<br>
Tel: +254 20 2245 036 <br>
Cell: +254 721 713 504 <br>
</p>
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<b><i>“Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction </i></b><br>
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<p>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:00 AM, robert yawe <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>>
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<p>> Hi,</p>
<p>> How does one get connected to KIXP and what are the charges, we run a</p>
<p>> website, yes locally hosted, but unfortunately the experience is
different</p>
<p>> depending on the ISP the client is connecting from, at times we have
noted</p>
<p>> traffic being rerouting through the international link because a
particular</p>
<p>> ISPs KIXP pipe is full.</p>
<p>> Regards</p>
<p>> </p>
<p>> Robert Yawe</p>
<p>> KAY System Technologies Ltd</p>
<p>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor</p>
<p>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</p>
<p>> Kenya</p>
<p>> </p>
<p>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696</p>
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