<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Give the farmer in Kirinyaga relevant content and he will want to get online, give you dad relevant local content like a social network where he can meet with his grandchildren and he will want to get online.</div><div><br></div><div>Watch Citizen TV during working hours for you and me or listen to Kameme during the same time and you will realise that the reason the farmer in Kirinyaga listens to Kameme when picking tea. The content is not the raunchy discussions on Kiss and Capital which add no productive value but erode our morals.</div><div><br></div><div>Take this model online and resolve the issue of dealing with the ISP, lets see how they will survive the county
governments.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br> </div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, 23 September, 2010 14:39:28<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo-but who is to blame?<br></font><br><table cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">@ Edwin,<br><br>By saying ISPs/Telcos to "Open Up their Supply Chain" do you mean "Force down the Retail Cost in order to stimulate demand?" - Hoping to recoup cost through larger volume sales?<br><br>Again, the ASSUMPTION here is that lower costs will automatically stimulate demand. Perhaps there's no demand because there's no local internet content and as such dropping cost may not really increas demand. <br><br>Put differently, 90% of the Kenyans who are currently NOT using the internet, dont, simply because there's NOTHING in it for them (why would my Dad get online? or that farmer in Kirinyaga? to do facebook, yahoo, youtube?(.. the current hot content "locally" here)). <br><br>In other words even giving them FREE internet will not get them online...but it might get the Operators broke, forcing some of them to close shop and eventually deny the few 10% of
the current Kenyan Internet Users access to the 'Net...far fetched but possible.<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 9/23/10, Edwin Onchari <i><eonchari@lynxbits.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><br>From: Edwin Onchari <eonchari@lynxbits.com><br>Subject: RE: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo-but who is to blame?<br>To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu@yahoo.com><br>Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 2:16 PM<br><br><div id="yiv869971759">
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Walu,</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">The ISPs/Telcos are to blame for the sheer lack of innovation on
their part. The one asset that they have not leveraged on is the abundant;
under-utilized IT human resource and entrepreneurial base inKenya. Open up
their supply chain to include this group(s) will see the last mile issue sorted
= more users= shared costs on the bandwidth procured by ISPs=lowered retail
prices</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">My take,</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Edwin</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;">
kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Walubengo J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edwin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo-but who is to blame?</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal">Yawe,<br>
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I think everyone (including ISPs) ASSUMED that the marine cable will
automatically crash the RETAIL internet prices. But ofcourse that
turned out to be false.<br>
<br>
At the same time, it DOES NOT mean the marine cable was a wasted
effort. It simply means the marine cable is NECESSARY but NOT
SUFFICIENT to bring down retail internet prices.<br>
<br>
I am not sure at this moment in time whom to blame for this. But I know its
not Dr. Ndemo nor the ISPs/Telcos. I am investigating this phenomena, and
perhaps, sometime future I could share the results...<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
@ Nnenna, your quotes from Senegal, Ivory Coast are juicy - but dig deeper -
since at face value, the mobile internet prices in .Ke look cheap, but in
long term reality(usage) they ARE NOT!<br>
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--- On <b>Thu, 9/23/10, robert yawe <i><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></i></b>
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From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br>
Subject: [kictanet] ISPs slap Ndemo<br>
To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 11:38 AM</p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">Hi,</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">The ISPs have
now teamed up and agreed that the cost of "International" Internet
access will not be coming down soon because we have less than 2.6%
penetration.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">Dr. Ndemo, this
is a slap on you, wield your big stick, or sorry not possible you recently
handed it over to Orange.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">There is only
one solution to this issue lets concentrate in developing local content
thereby reducing the dependence on the over hyped marine cable. But
based on the discussions on the commodity exchange system this will be an up
hill task as we question the credibility of everyone he tries to setup a
local online application or service.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">I read an
article on how Hon. Kilonzo is planning to setup green houses in all the
schools in his constituency while the others are trying to provide computers
to children who are not able to get a balanced diet. </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">Again I repeat
"I am ashamed to be a member of the ICT fraternity" but like was
once said by a disgruntled KANU memebrr "I shall remain the
opposition within"</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">Regards<br>
</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="">Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya</span></p>
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<p class="yiv869971759MsoNormal"><span style="">Tel:
+254722511225, +254202010696</span></p>
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