Friends,<br><br>This is good for the market, the Consumer will end up as King, whichever way one looks at it the competition is more than pricing, i am not so good with colours but at least green is a warm colour :-) even cows in the village can recognise it, i suppose the community needs some warmth warmth from Zain as well, i dont think the whole country is covered yet and the fight might be for the few clients in major urban areas, i wonder whether there is anything like Universal Coverage and what the regulator has to say about it, Prices will always come down with economies of scale.<br>
<br>My thoughts<br><br>I suppose<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Listrers,<br>
(I'm typing this from a street corner!)<br>
<br>
There's a lot of pessimism towards Zain's new tarrif owing to the fact<br>
that, maybe, "most" people are in Safaricom.<br>
It's quiet illogical even for some non-market analysts, to give their<br>
negative impression of Zain/Bharti tarrif owing to the fact that they<br>
might be shareholders of Safcom.<br>
I'd rather, we don't take sides and let the best team win - as long<br>
the consumer is - insttead of attacking an investment.<br>
<br>
My little thoughts.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 25/08/2010, Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Cool!<br>
><br>
> On 25 August 2010 17:56, Dennis Kipruto <<a href="mailto:rutodenis@gmail.com">rutodenis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Andrea,<br>
>><br>
>> On monday I bought a zain sim card and I wasn't allowed to pick my line<br>
>> before I had given a copy Of my ID card.all the street vendors have been<br>
>> given a booklet containing all the details that need to registered by<br>
>> respective telcos.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Dennis Kipruto.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I'm particularly curious if, in this whole feeding frenzy, Zain are<br>
>> actually urging people to register, and also whether CCK will really treat<br>
>> end-August as the cut-off date and, well, cut everyone unregistered off.<br>
>> It'd be interesting to hear from both organisations.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm still not sure whether my registrations have actually entered the<br>
>> system, never mind whether the whole exercise made any sense since I'm now<br>
>> convinced that I could have registered as Elton John. Or even as Michael<br>
>> Jackson in his latter pale days:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <<a href="http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html" target="_blank">http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html</a>><br>
>> <a href="http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html" target="_blank">http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> On 25 August 2010 16:32, <<br>
</div>>> <<a href="mailto:Francis.Hook@gmail.com">Francis.Hook@gmail.com</a>><a href="mailto:Francis.Hook@gmail.com">Francis.Hook@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<div class="im">>><br>
>>> It would be interesting to see what impact SIM registration has on total<br>
>>> subscriber numbers across all networks. In RSA, Vodacom alone shed one<br>
>>> million subscribers when SIM registration was implemented. With the multi<br>
>>> SIM card population we have (Yu, Zain, Orange in the wallet and Safaricom<br>
>>> in<br>
>>> the phone...or sthg like that...or two lines on one network obtained from<br>
>>> handset offers etc), subscribers may be compelled to decide who is their<br>
>>> "true love"....and now with the tariff wars raging....and with MNP in the<br>
>>> vicinity push WILL come to shove.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
</div>>>> On Aug 25, 2010 2:41pm, Walubengo J < <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<div class="im">>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Andrea,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > yes, indeed these are interesting times. but not for me, at least not<br>
>>> yet.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > The high costs of voice communications have for a very longtime<br>
>>> socialized me into the (peculiar?) habit of NOT talking. I have grown<br>
>>> used<br>
>>> to alternative means of communication and just feel too old to suddenly<br>
>>> start yapping. So of what use is 20bob, 8bob, 3bob, 2bob or even 1bob per<br>
>>> minute voice call if I rarely talk anyway ;-)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > My prayer is that these price wars will eventually move over from the<br>
>>> Voice to Data (internet) markets. That will be the day I will really get<br>
>>> excited...<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > walu.<br>
>>> > nb: me-still-thinks Zain will not cause any significant dent on Safcom<br>
>>> 80% existing market share but shall instead gain 80% of all the NEW<br>
>>> subscribers over the next couple of months...but perharps am just being<br>
>>> biased since am told the Zain new owners<br>
>>> > have the money to sustain "loses" for longer periods of time(even 5yrs)<br>
>>> in order to cause a serious dent on the market leader's position. May the<br>
>>> best man and woman win.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Andrea Bohnstedt<br>
</div>>>> <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
<div class="im">>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Pondering mobile competition<br>
</div>>>> > To: <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">>>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>> > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 4:38 PM<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > The 'abuse' complaint was silly, I think: Zain's network was congested<br>
>>> from day one of their tariff launch. I'm sure, very very sure, that<br>
>>> telecoms<br>
>>> professionals at both Zain and Bharti are, well, professional enough to<br>
>>> anticipate the need to increase network capacity if<br>
>>> > they launch such an aggressive tariff.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > You've seen the fun little leaked exchange between Rene Meza and<br>
>>> > Michael<br>
>>> Joseph - Zain approached Safaricom in the evening asking for capacity on<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> Safaricom-owned link, and Joseph promised to look into this in the<br>
>>> morning.<br>
>>> The interconnection agreement between both companies states that this<br>
>>> protocol can take up to seven days, as far as I understand.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html" target="_blank">http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html</a>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html" target="_blank">http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Either they could have just increased capacity before the launch, or,<br>
>>> > if<br>
>>> they were worried about alerting Safaricom to this, then just suck up and<br>
>>> tell customers that the network will be congested for another seven days.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > So for Zain to come out the next morning and shout about abuse is<br>
>>> > dishonest and a cheap marketing ploy that I think they really don't<br>
>>> > need.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I'm a happy capitalist. Competition is a good thing, in Kenya as<br>
>>> elsewhere. So I'd like them to compete on the strength of their services<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> concepts, not by overnight accusations of 'abuse'.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Mind you, if Zain kill of Orange and Essar, we'll have a bit less<br>
>>> competition in terms of numbers, but hey ... :)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Happy phone calls,<br>
>>> > Andrea<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 24 August 2010 14:34, Emmanuel Khisa <<a href="mailto:oloo.khisa@googlemail.com">oloo.khisa@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:oloo.khisa@googlemail.com">oloo.khisa@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hi Andreas,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > You have spoken for me on this one...I have also wondered since<br>
>>> zain/bharti lodged their complaint with CCK over clogged network, were<br>
>>> they<br>
>>> just playing spoilt kid or do they have a valid claim? My opinion is that<br>
>>> since they have experienced an unanticipated rise in subscribers they<br>
>>> didnt<br>
>>> have the network infrastructure to support these calls and so quickly<br>
>>> blame<br>
>>> the rival and make them look bad. But then again maybe they have a valid<br>
>>> case against the boys in green.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Nonetheless the winner here is the consumer. Shall we safely say that<br>
>>> > we<br>
>>> have entered the third mobile revolution.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt<br>
</div></div>>>> <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I'm wondering:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Will CCK strictly enforce the cut-off deadline for unregistered SIM<br>
>>> cards at the end of August? Are Zain making sure that everyone picking up<br>
>>> a<br>
>>> new line also register them immediately?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > If price war is Zain's strategy, will they have enough money left to<br>
>>> invest in infrastructure and customer service once their subscriber<br>
>>> numbers<br>
>>> go up significantly? Will they be able to scale up both systems quickly<br>
>>> enough?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Telkom Orange are cited in the media as complaining that the<br>
>>> interconnect rate also applies to their fixed line service and that this<br>
>>> is<br>
>>> not even covering their costs<br>
>>> (<<a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/</a>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/</a>).<br>
>>> I wonder if the two big ones having it out won't kill the two small ones<br>
>>> first?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bharti/Zain have also launched free sms alongside lower on and off-net<br>
>>> calling rates and free minutes in Nigeria:<br>
>>> <<a href="http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria" target="_blank">http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria</a>><br>
>>> <a href="http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria" target="_blank">http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Happy afternoon,<br>
>>> > Andrea<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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