<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><DIV>The proposed Constitution has protection of Privacy - Art 31. There is no data protection provision besides a mention in the privacy article that includes a right not to have info relating to family or private affairs unnecessarily required or revealed. </DIV>
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<DIV>The document also provides for consumer protection - legislation should be in place 4 yrs after proposed Const is enacted.</DIV>
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<DIV>regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Wamuyu<BR></DIV>
<DIV>P/S However, my view is that the value of a new Constitution could presently overide our privacy interests. Researched scenarios were presented yesterday, at the Agenda 4 Commission conference, that present agrim picture if the Constitutional process fails. There will be absolutely no privacy to demand for in a conflict environment. So this is a critical national interest. My beef is with the poor message that was sent out...There will indeed be minimum and maximum land limits but the motive is positive and the process of doing so will be participatory (as it was in the 6 yr process to develop the Land Policy).</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Sam Gatere <sam.gatere@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, 16 July, 2010 10:38:53<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest<BR></FONT><BR>Interesting View Barrack,<BR><BR>When we think promotion we automatically think its the carrier promoting their product, but as Edith puts it National Interest verses Privacy! This looks like a push marketing to possibly an unwilling buyer! so this comes through as an intrusion of privacy for those who are in favour or not in favour of the said promotional message.<BR><BR>Could someone shed some light on what the Kenya Communication Act says about data
protection and privacy? Does the New constitution have anything on Privacy and data protection? <BR><BR><BR>And yes as Barrack puts it is a catch 22...<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Barrack Otieno <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Well, i see no problem with promotional sms,s its what makes the Information economy tick, i am looking at this as an entrepreneur and as a consumer, its a catch 22 just the way an employee complains about his or her employer yet the former might as well decide to have his or her own organisation, this simply justify the need for the data protection act to ensure that the promotions are done within the law, i see no problem with what Safaricom did, they are out to make money and it is the biggest tax payer, at least a road will be fixed somewhere out of the money they make.<BR><BR>Kind Regards<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=h5>On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On 16/07/2010, Badru Ntege <<A href="mailto:ntegeb@one2net.co.ug" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ntegeb@one2net.co.ug">ntegeb@one2net.co.ug</A>> wrote:<BR>> Do subscribers in Kenya have an option to stop these sms's ?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> In Uganda you send STOP to the sending number and your number would be<BR>> deleted from the senders database. The only problem is you are charged for<BR>> the sms you send to have your number deleted.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> It seems to be working.<BR>><BR>><BR><BR></DIV>Why should a person be charged to unsubscribe from a service they<BR>didn't request or subscribe to?<BR><BR>If one subscribed, that's understood very well.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>
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<DIV>><BR>> regards<BR>><BR>> From: kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=<A href="http://one2net.co.ug/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>one2net.co.ug</A>@<A href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR>> [mailto:<A href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bntegeb" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bntegeb">kictanet-bounces+ntegeb</A>=<A href="http://one2net.co.ug/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>one2net.co.ug</A>@<A href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>] On<BR>> Behalf Of Victor Gathara<BR>> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:33 AM<BR>> To: <A href="mailto:ntegeb@one2net.co.ug" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ntegeb@one2net.co.ug">ntegeb@one2net.co.ug</A><BR>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Following this with interest. I think it
would be improper for networks to<BR>> sell/avail subscriber numbers to others for promotional purposes because<BR>> subscribers don't have a choice to opt in to this when they sign up for the<BR>> service (I certainly didn't). Promotions from the network itself are of<BR>> course a different matter altogether.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Regarding spam where the sender gets phone numbers through unscrupulous<BR>> means the only solution may be to press the DELETE key. Sim card<BR>> registration should make it possible to pursue and prosecute offenders<BR>> (assuming there is a law against spamming in Kenya).<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Victor<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _____<BR>><BR>> From: kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=<A href="http://dfid.gov.uk/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>dfid.gov.uk</A>@<A href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lists.kictanet.or.ke</A><BR>> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bv-gathara" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bv-gathara">kictanet-bounces+v-gathara</A>=<A href="http://dfid.gov.uk/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>dfid.gov.uk</A>@<A href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>] On<BR>> Behalf Of dennis kipruto<BR>> Sent: 16 July 2010 08:12<BR>> To: Victor Gathara<BR>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest<BR>><BR>> I also got one. It seems Safaricom has a case to Answer.More so i didn't<BR>> sign up for any YES Campaign media gimic. I would call the SMS a spam SMS.<BR>><BR>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Edith Adera <<A href="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke">eadera@idrc.or.ke</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> Today I received a promotional sms from the "YES" campaign. Can
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