Dear McTim,<div><br></div><div>thank you, for youre insightful thoughts.....</div><div><br></div><div>if I read you correct....is that Kenya is where it is regarding to IPV6, because of lack of Knowledge or Capacity?</div>
<div><br></div><div>e.g we do have engineers- so that shouldn't be the reason why SA is ahead of us in terms of deployment, right?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:08 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:15 AM, lordmwesh <<a href="mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com">lordmwesh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Policy on IPV6 would come in handy.<br>
<br>
</div>We have a Pan-African IPv6 policy. You can read it here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2004-v6-001.htm" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2004-v6-001.htm</a><br>
<div class="im"><br>
Assume that one day we wake up, and<br>
> there are no more public IPV4 to allocate, yet our companies and government<br>
> agencies are stuck with IPV4 hardware.<br>
<br>
</div>Unless their kit is like 15 years old, then this is not the case. All<br>
*Nix boes, Apple, and Windows (NT and after IIRC) are v6 ready.<br>
<br>
It's the CPEs/home routers that we need to be concerned about. Many<br>
are not v6 compatible. Doesn't matter where you are in the world.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
According to AFRINIC, we only have<br>
> like 370 days to exhaustion of IPV4.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, what does that mean? It means that IANA will have no more /8s of<br>
v4 to allocate to RIRs. AfriNIC will have v4 for at least another<br>
year after that.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> @Barrack, you are right by calling us names "A copy paste society" J. But<br>
> don’t forget the East achieved innovation and growth by first realizing that<br>
> "imitate then innovate" is just as good. Ask Tata motors who now own big<br>
> brands like Land Rover.<br>
<br>
</div>TATA also run SEACOM and have a PoP in KE.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Congratulations to the relevant Kenyan Ministries of Technology which have<br>
> really endeavored to be being abreast with changing trends in the tech field<br>
> despite the many challenges we face. On innovation, our universities and<br>
> institutes have outdates labs, and teach outdated subject that were copy<br>
> pasted some years back from the west. Solutions to these problems have to be<br>
> found.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>KENET is implementing v6 across its network, no?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> As much as Muchuki has put a good effort in explaining the update of IPV6 in<br>
> Kenya, we are far behind our Brothers in South Africa as shown<br>
> <a href="http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/all/?country=za" target="_blank">http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/all/?country=za</a><br>
<br>
</div>as expected..they are a bigger market and have more engineers to do<br>
things like deploy v6.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> Early adoption of IPV6 would help us learn and get experience on the various<br>
> services and innovation that we can implement on the new IP scheme.<br>
<br>
</div>"early adoption" would have been done a decade ago.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
We don’t<br>
> want to be struggling with implementing IPV6 systems decades down the line<br>
> after the west are comfortably using theirs.<br>
<br>
</div>Not to worry, the West will implement v6 pole pole, just like KE.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Michuki put it correctly, we<br>
> need the experience of using the new scheme, not just the theory we learn in<br>
> Cisco classes. And experience can only be achieved by implementation<br>
<br>
</div>that's right, have you dual stacked your network? Maybe we should have<br>
a competition amongst network operators?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> DNSSEC signing of the root domain server will surely improve cyber security.<br>
<br>
</div>only if your nameserver uses DNSSEC.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Some social complexities of DNSSEC according to<br>
> <a href="http://epic.org/privacy/dnssec/" target="_blank">http://epic.org/privacy/dnssec/</a> have been identified<br>
<br>
</div>a page that has a misleading headline of "Google Expands Control of<br>
Internet Architecture:" leads me to think twice about their<br>
perspective.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> The DNS system consists of both resolvers (find the DNS data for a DNS name)<br>
> and hosts (those that publish DNS data for a domain name).<br>
<br>
</div>hmmm, I would say there are resolvers and other nameservers, not hosts.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
The pilot in<br>
> Sweden has shown that DNSSEC is only of value when both the hosts and<br>
> resolvers deploy<br>
<br>
</div>of course, all links in the chain MUST speak DNSSEC.<br>
<br>
@Walu: Dude, It';s not your fault, and it's not the fault of<br>
AfriNIC/Kenyan IPv6 Task Force. If ISPs don't use v6 it's becasue<br>
there is no DEMAND for it (yet). Customers create demand, the GoK<br>
could mandate v6 connectivity in all their contracts with ISPs,<br>
starting with KT/Oranje running their fiber net.<br>
<br>
I think your being a bit paranoid about the rich world here....It is<br>
not possible for the well off to "grab all the Internet Resources from<br>
the poor South...". You shold know this, and being part of the Board<br>
of the NIC, you should fight this kind of misperception, not<br>
perpetuate it!!<br>
<div class="im"><br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
<br>
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