<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Kui,<br><br>For some background information on Competition, Dominance,etc you could check on the following information resources which should be available on-line:<br><br>1.Oftel, January 2000- The application of the Competition Act in Telecommunications Sector.<br><br>2. INTUG - Anti-Competitive Conduct and Competition Policy in Telecommunications,ITU,Geneva 22 Nov.2002<br><br>3.EU Directive 2002/19/EC 0f 7/3/2002 (Access Directive)<br><br>4. European Court of Justice in " United Brands v. Commission(1978) ECR. 207<br><br>5.Telecommunication Regulation Handbook(Module 5 - Competition Policy) by INFODEV, <br><br><br>Good Luck,<br><br>John Kariuki<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 6/5/10, Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <i><mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left:
5px;"><br>From: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke><br>Subject: [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom<br>To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net><br>Date: Thursday, 6 May, 2010, 8:47<br><br><div class="plainMail">Is there anyone on the list with a firm grasp of the industry (and who is not directly involved :-) who is wiling to offer their objective views on this subject for publication in Business Daily?<br>400-600 words please.<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>Kui Kinyanjui<br>Business Daily<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=<a ymailto="mailto:nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=<a ymailto="mailto:nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On Behalf Of McTim<br>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:15 AM<br>To: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui<br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users; Angela Nganga- Mumo<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?<br><br>On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau<br><<a ymailto="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> This is great Angela.<br>> I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying foul.<br><br><br>Let's re-examine our assumptions of who the "Big Boy" in the Kenyan<br>Telecommunications market is.<br><br>The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Telkom.Orange (and may in<br>future own a majority share). When Orange makes a profit, so do its<br>owners.<br><br>The GoK owns a huge minority
shareholding in Safaricom. When SafCom<br>makes a profit, so do its owners.<br><br>The GoK collects a tremendous amount of VAT and other taxes from the<br>telecoms market players.<br><br>The GoK collects a tremendous amount of license fees and frequencies<br>fees from the telecoms market players.<br><br>The GoK sets policy via the CCK and the Ministry.<br><br>So from my POV, the GoK is the BIG BOY, it seems to me that this is<br>the "elephant in the room" that no one is talking about.<br><br>In any case on this specific regulation, I applaud the intent of<br>creating a level playing field. However, I see no monetary "teeth" or<br>enforcement measures (read fines) in this single doc (I have yet to<br>read the others).<br><br>My main objection is the 25% rule. My reading of this is that there<br>MUST always be at least one dominant provider. Let me use a poker<br>game analogy to make my point. Before the first hand is dealt,
all<br>players will have an equal amount of chips. After the first hand (and<br>subsequent hands) there will (most likely) be a "chip leader" and a<br>"short stack". It is not likely that there will ever be equilibrium<br>in the game (or in the telecoms market).<br><br>I would suggest that this clause is not helpful, at least at the 25%<br>value at which the trigger is now set.<br><br>No wonder Safaricom is complaining.<br><br>--<br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>><br>> On 06/05/2010, Carole K <<a ymailto="mailto:mhariricarole@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=mhariricarole@gmail.com">mhariricarole@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed about<br>>> this new "unfair" regulation.<br>>><br>>>
CK<br>>><br>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo <<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke">anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Dear All,<br>>>><br>>>> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations.<br>>>><br>>>> Regards,<br>>>><br>>>> logo2<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo<br>>>><br>>>> Head of Corporate Communications<br>>>><br>>>> Landline: + 254 20 3232011<br>>>><br>>>> Orange Fixed Plus : +254 20 2454233<br>>>><br>>>> Orange Mobile: +254 772 548 066<br>>>><br>>>>
Email : <a ymailto="mailto:anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke">anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke</a><br>>>><br>>>> cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net" href="/mc/compose?to=ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net">ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net</a><br>>>> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net" href="/mc/compose?to=ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net">ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM<br>>>> To: Andrea Bohnstedt<br>>>> Cc:
KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users<br>>>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs<br>>>> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?<br>>>><br>>>> Will send it tomorrow.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Ndemo.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of your<br>>>> > colleagues<br>>>> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit nicer<br>>>> on<br>>>> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper copies.<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Thanks, Andrea<br>>>> ><br>>>> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>> ><br>>>> >> the drama continues,<br>>>>
>><br>>>> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and Zain<br>>>> support<br>>>> >> the<br>>>> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's complaint. All<br>>>> these<br>>>> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they are<br>>>> >> arguing<br>>>> >> about!<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at the<br>>>> >> Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo? Assuming I leave in<br>>>> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and pickup<br>>>> some<br>>>> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable?<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your<br>>>>
eGovernment<br>>>> >> stories?<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> walu.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>>* wrote:<br>>>> >><br>>>> >><br>>>> >> From: Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>>>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom?<br>>>> >> To: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>>>> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM<br>>>>
>><br>>>> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily Nation. They<br>>>> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have searched<br>>>> >> www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can plse<br>>>> >> update.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> walu.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >><br>>>> >><br>>>> >><br>>>> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>>>> >> kictanet mailing list<br>>>> >><br>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
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