<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">MM,<br><br>this Kwame guy is an interesting read!. One amusing message I picked says that the regulator should be protecting consumers - not competitors ;-)<br><br>..and from the "streets" some analyst said that Safcom may have exploited its dominance position; but that was in the beginning (ref: interconnection tariff wars with Kencell 6-8yrs ago). Currently, it will be a tall order to get evidence of the yet to be defined "exploiting" dominance postion"<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 5/7/10, muriuki mureithi <i><mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: muriuki mureithi <mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom<br>To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>Cc:
"'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "'ke-users'" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net><br>Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 3:32 PM<br><br><div id="yiv2117984568">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kui</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">For a local context from an economic perspective , read the
attached </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Regards </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Muriuki Mureithi </span></p>
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kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Kariuki<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 May 2010 08:09<br>
<b>To:</b> mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions -
CCK vs Safaricom</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kui,<br>
<br>
For some background information on Competition, Dominance,etc you could
check on the following information resources which should be available
on-line:<br>
<br>
1.Oftel, January 2000- The application of the Competition Act in
Telecommunications Sector.<br>
<br>
2. INTUG - Anti-Competitive Conduct and Competition Policy in
Telecommunications,ITU,Geneva 22 Nov.2002<br>
<br>
3.EU Directive 2002/19/EC 0f 7/3/2002 (Access Directive)<br>
<br>
4. European Court of Justice in " United Brands v. Commission(1978) ECR.
207<br>
<br>
5.Telecommunication Regulation Handbook(Module 5 - Competition Policy) by
INFODEV, <br>
<br>
<br>
Good Luck,<br>
<br>
John Kariuki<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Thu, 6/5/10, Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <i><mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke></i></b>
wrote:</p>
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From: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke><br>
Subject: [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom<br>
To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com><br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users"
<ke-internetusers@bdix.net><br>
Date: Thursday, 6 May, 2010, 8:47</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there anyone on the list with a firm grasp of the
industry (and who is not directly involved :-) who is wiling to offer their
objective views on this subject for publication in Business Daily?<br>
400-600 words please.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Kui Kinyanjui<br>
Business Daily<br>
<br>
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From: kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=<a rel="nofollow">nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
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On Behalf Of McTim<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:15 AM<br>
To: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui<br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users; Angela Nganga- Mumo<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs
Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau<br>
<<a rel="nofollow">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> This is great Angela.<br>
> I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying foul.<br>
<br>
<br>
Let's re-examine our assumptions of who the "Big Boy" in the Kenyan<br>
Telecommunications market is.<br>
<br>
The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Telkom.Orange (and may in<br>
future own a majority share). When Orange makes a profit, so do its<br>
owners.<br>
<br>
The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Safaricom. When SafCom<br>
makes a profit, so do its owners.<br>
<br>
The GoK collects a tremendous amount of VAT and other taxes from the<br>
telecoms market players.<br>
<br>
The GoK collects a tremendous amount of license fees and frequencies<br>
fees from the telecoms market players.<br>
<br>
The GoK sets policy via the CCK and the Ministry.<br>
<br>
So from my POV, the GoK is the BIG BOY, it seems to me that this is<br>
the "elephant in the room" that no one is talking about.<br>
<br>
In any case on this specific regulation, I applaud the intent of<br>
creating a level playing field. However, I see no monetary
"teeth" or<br>
enforcement measures (read fines) in this single doc (I have yet to<br>
read the others).<br>
<br>
My main objection is the 25% rule. My reading of this is that there<br>
MUST always be at least one dominant provider. Let me use a poker<br>
game analogy to make my point. Before the first hand is dealt, all<br>
players will have an equal amount of chips. After the first hand (and<br>
subsequent hands) there will (most likely) be a "chip leader" and a<br>
"short stack". It is not likely that there will ever be
equilibrium<br>
in the game (or in the telecoms market).<br>
<br>
I would suggest that this clause is not helpful, at least at the 25%<br>
value at which the trigger is now set.<br>
<br>
No wonder Safaricom is complaining.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> On 06/05/2010, Carole K <<a rel="nofollow">mhariricarole@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed
about<br>
>> this new "unfair" regulation.<br>
>><br>
>> CK<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo <<br>
>> <a rel="nofollow">anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dear All,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> logo2<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo<br>
>>><br>
>>> Head of Corporate Communications<br>
>>><br>
>>> Landline:
+ 254 20 3232011<br>
>>><br>
>>> Orange Fixed Plus : +254 20
2454233<br>
>>><br>
>>> Orange Mobile:
+254 772 548 066<br>
>>><br>
>>> Email :
<a rel="nofollow">anganga@orange-tkl.co.ke</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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>>> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow">ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
>>> <a rel="nofollow">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a><br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM<br>
>>> To: Andrea Bohnstedt<br>
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users<br>
>>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs<br>
>>> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Will send it tomorrow.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ndemo.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one
of your<br>
>>> > colleagues<br>
>>> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and
a bit nicer<br>
>>> on<br>
>>> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy
paper copies.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Thanks, Andrea<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> the drama continues,<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange
and Zain<br>
>>> support<br>
>>> >> the<br>
>>> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's
complaint. All<br>
>>> these<br>
>>> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of
what they are<br>
>>> >> arguing<br>
>>> >> about!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are
available at the<br>
>>> >> Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo?
Assuming I leave in<br>
>>> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to
come and pickup<br>
>>> some<br>
>>> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with
your<br>
>>> eGovernment<br>
>>> >> stories?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> walu.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>>* wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> From: Walubengo J <<a rel="nofollow">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom?<br>
>>> >> To: <a rel="nofollow">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
>>> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a rel="nofollow">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily
Nation. They<br>
>>> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I
have searched<br>
>>> >> www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific
url can plse<br>
>>> >> update.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> walu.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
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