<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi,<br>You could be right Waianaina....but remember this issue that I believe we all do not subscribe to is thriving in this current constitution. I have not indicated that I'm willing to support abortion but I will not sit down and watch mistakes done one after another the next day they will wal k with my head and some people continue saying they need abotion entrenched. Will you support it? I guess not. According to me (I believe in modularity) I better separate and concentrate on issues case by case to complete. It will give me the strength to soldier on and agiotate for more goodies. I will definitely address the abortion issue but mixing them makes life difficult and may allow two wrongs to get life!<br><br><div style="font-family: verdana;"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(64, 64, 255);">Regards,</span> </font></div> <div style="font-family:
verdana;"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(64, 64, 255);">Okech JM</span></font></div><font size="4"><a rel="nofollow" style="font-family: verdana;" target="_blank" href="http://james-okech.blogspot.com"><span style="color: rgb(64, 64, 255);">My blog</span></a></font><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 4/27/10, Wainaina Mungai <i><wainaina@madeinkenya.org></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org><br>Subject: Re: Red Card for the Sheikhs<br>To: okechjr@yahoo.com, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:55 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Just one more:<br><br>1. The replacement of the "current constitution" with the "draft<br>constitution" does not solve the problem.<br>....let us entrench principles that are universal and do not favour<br>one religion or
tribe or gender etc.<br><br>2. Then ofcourse we have the abortion issue raised separately.<br><br>WM<br><br>On 4/27/10, Okech <<a ymailto="mailto:okechjr@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=okechjr@yahoo.com">okechjr@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Emmanuel,<br>> You win my support here! We are not yet under the new<br>> constitution and that is why we are complaining. The constitution we want to<br>> oust supports this barbaric<br>> act of dictatorship and religious censorship if what I heard is something to<br>> go by. It may not be a bad idea but if it does deny citizens the right to<br>> information then something is definitely wrong. We are sick of such a<br>> tendency and thus we must join hands to kick this old constitution.<br>><br>> Regards, Okech JMMy blog<br>><br>> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, <a ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:okechjr@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=okechjr@yahoo.com">okechjr@yahoo.com</a><br>> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:48 PM<br>><br>> Did I miss some
news?<br>><br>> I thought what I happened in North Eastern (Mandera) to be specific was a<br>> decree that even the Kenyan chief's proclaim from time to time in<br>> "Christian" Kenya. When this happens it affects both Christian and Muslim<br>> youth alike.<br>><br>> I am bound to be corrected but this is happening not under the new<br>> Constitution but the current one and so my question is what has it got to do<br>> with the new constitution? What has it got to do with the Kadhi's courts or<br>> any of those parts being contested?<br>><br>> I really think that as reasonable and kind Christ followers, we must ask<br>> ourselves, what's Christ do?<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Emmanuel<br>> PS: The views expressed here are my own..<br>><br>><br>>> -------Original Message-------<br>>> From: Harry Delano <<a ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke"
href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a><br>>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs<br>>> Sent: Apr 26 '10 22:26<br>>><br>>> You mean, there is something called Sharia law, in this country...???<br>>><br>>> Last time I checked, it's the kind of law applied and dictated by<br>>> fundamentalists<br>>> upon hapless citizenry, with no regard whatsoever for the very basic of<br>>> basic<br>>> human rights..<br>>><br>>> So, who is
fooling who..? Next thing, internet will be outlawed in that<br>>> section<br>>> of the nation. Who knows where next. And this is at a time we working to<br>>> open up space and bridge the national divide. Time to smell coffee...<br>>><br>>> Harry<br>>><br>>><br>>> --------------------<br>>> FROM: kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=<a ymailto="mailto:comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] ON<br>>> BEHALF OF S.Murigi Muraya<br>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:09 AM<br>>> TO: <a
ymailto="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br>>> CC: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>>> SUBJECT: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs<br>>><br>>><br>>> Please note Article 24 Subsection 4 of our soon to be new constitution<br>>> limits how the Bill of Rights may apply to the one religion the Kenyan<br>>> state is funding with the approval of Kenyans who vote YES!<br>>><br>>> Of course the Kenyan media is too busy slandering Churches to point this<br>>> out.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Wainaina Mungai <[LINK:<br>>> mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wainaina@madeinkenya.org" href="/mc/compose?to=wainaina@madeinkenya.org">wainaina@madeinkenya.org</a>] <a ymailto="mailto:wainaina@madeinkenya.org"
href="/mc/compose?to=wainaina@madeinkenya.org">wainaina@madeinkenya.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> The recent move by Muslim Sheikhs to enforce Sharia Law, outlaw DSTV,<br>>> video dens & related activities in Mandera could not have come at a<br>>> more unfortunate time. The support they have received from SUPREM<br>>> (Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims) further complicates the debate on<br>>> the "continued" inclusion of Kadhi Courts in our Constitution.<br>>><br>>> Now that the SUPKEM has proved to support such apparent 'treason' in<br>>> my secular nation, President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga must<br>>> also commit to ensuring that religion and religious courts are omitted<br>>> from the
new constitution. That is the pact they must sign with the NO<br>>> campaign if a YES vote is to sail through without question. No<br>>> religion, especially fundamentalist Islam, should enjoy the privileges<br>>> of my hard-earned taxes to propagate religious activities that may<br>>> disintegrate into such treasonable actions as by the Sheikhs.<br>>><br>>> My vote would easily change to a resounding "NO" unless I am assured<br>>> by the Constitution that no Sheikh or Buddist monk, Hindu priest or<br>>> Christian cleric will get away with the absurd audacity of attempting<br>>> to determine where I watch my Supersport matches, what I drink as I do<br>>> so; where and what I can smoke or
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