Harry<div><br></div><div>You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government and private sector practitioners.</div>
<div><br></div><div>May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop shared services in government. We have also received some further grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision. </div>
<div><br></div><div>This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:</div><div><ul><li>Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for senior people to spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya. as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.</li>
<li>Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall provide tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website, sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit proceeding. </li>
</ul><div>I have just asked my team to post the report from the last conference onto our website <a href="http://www.ict.go.ke">www.ict.go.ke</a>. The key success of last year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road to government shared services. Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm that this is a big step.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Asante</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Kukubo<br>Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board<br>PO Box 27150 - 00100<br>Nairobi, Kenya<br><br>12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street<br><br>Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 <br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>Lucy,</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>If you are online, kindly address the
sentiments from listers on the summit.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>I believe there is a general feeling that the broader
ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit,
could take</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>a "back seat"</span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>, as your interim list <font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>of invitees who
seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market
</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>themselves and </span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at
the same time to sway policy that works in their
favor.</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span> </span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>It perhaps
</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>would be advisable for the Board to ensure a
balanced participation </span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>in such
</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>forums in future, so that others who do not
</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>have </span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>"vested"
</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>interests can keep the debate focussed
and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is
not</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span> a</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>"by-product" or "end product" of these important
meetings.</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span></span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span></span></font></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>That is why discussants here are interested, and
request that you make arrangements that would transmit
live proceedings</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an
internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins".
Participants, </span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>can tune in </span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>and
</span></font></span></font><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and
action plans can be availed online.</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span></span></font></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span>Are there such plans
afoot..?</span></font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span> </span></font></font></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span></span></font></font></font><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">H<span>arry </span></font></font></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Emmanuel Khisa
[mailto:<a href="mailto:Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" target="_blank">Emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 26, 2010
12:29 PM<div class="im"><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'<br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT
Board?<br></div></div></font><br></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Harry
(Not Hare),</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">I
asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for
this very important meeting of minds? And what is the
Criterion?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt">
kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=<a href="http://kadet.co.ke" target="_blank">kadet.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa</a>=<a href="http://kadet.co.ke" target="_blank">kadet.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Harry Delano<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke" target="_blank">emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT
Board?</span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Thanks
Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">And
while at it;- <strong><span>"The connected Government summit of
2010"</span></strong> announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on
Wed.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Listers,
whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where
I do not think alot of people have been invited</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">to take
part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the
proceedings from there or in a way participate, as </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">most of
the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals
(MNC's)..?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Once
again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up
there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in
place.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Harry..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt">
kictanet-bounces+harry=<a href="http://comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+harry</a>=<a href="http://comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Solomon Mburu Kamau<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT
Board?</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Harry (not the Hare ;-)<br><br>As Jesus once said, let
those who have ears, hear...</p></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-family:'Georgia','serif'">Even in
'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and
other interested parties.<br><br><br>On another level, I think the link provided
by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get
to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>walu.<br>nb: its a coded message but am sure it
is quite clear to those who must take action to interven.<br><br><br>---
On <b>Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <i><<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>></i></b>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>From: Harry Delano <<a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a>><br>Subject: RE: [kictanet]
Who is ICT Board?<br>To: "'Walubengo J'" <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Walu,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Could
you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the
way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:blue;font-size:10pt">Harry</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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</div></div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt">
kictanet-bounces+harry=<a href="http://comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+harry</a>=<a href="http://comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">comtelsys.co.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Walubengo
J</span></p><div class="im"><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke" target="_blank">harry@comtelsys.co.ke</a><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT
Board?</div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yawe,<br><br>Google brought me the official
answer @<br><a href="http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives" target="_blank">http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives</a><br><br>But
I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which
is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information
implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This
could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and
GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power
games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver
on technology enabled services for
Government.<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 3/25/10, robert
yawe <i><<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></i></b>
wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>From: robert
yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>Subject:
[kictanet] Who is ICT Board?<br>To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>Date:
Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their
mandate?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Robert Yawe<br>KAY
System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box
55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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