<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18876"></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Hey Aki,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>You are right. Arriving at a clear benchmark might
be elusive. What could be classified as "E-waste" vis-a-viz, "Second
hand"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>could be a matter of conjecture, just as what may be
defined as "Disposable" or "Re-usable"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Frankly speaking, it is subjective - depending on who is
handling the topic. That is why once again, I would really call for
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>adoption of a<STRONG> "Multistakeholder"</STRONG>
based approach in most of these ICT policy formulation. Let it be consultative -
involving</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Government, policy experts, researchers, dealers,
environmental experts - etcetra. An "All inclusive approach" that will
go</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>a long way to address all interested parties'
concerns.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I echo Evans' hailing of the "open door" policy by the
PS. Let's keep the ideas alive, and not shy away from contributing
for</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>the sake of this beloved nation's
progress..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I suppose, it's time we start seeing some of these important
policy debates on resourceful forums such as this evolve
into</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>good legislation, to have some form of
teeth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Harry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656342415-20032010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>aki<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] Used
Computers<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Harry, I'll add my last general amatuer comment on this thread,
corrections are welcome. :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wikipedia can be vague sometimes. When we talk health
hazards from equipment, does it refer to radiation from CRTs? Chemicals from
computers? Many who have done anything to do with electronics will know,
the most unstable component is the Electrolyte Capacitor which is found in
power supplies, and one unique one is found on motherboards on older
computers. The rest of components, besides the main processor
and memory, are sealed in a laquer layer. Even with new computers,
this is the case. Both of these items pose problems when disposed. Importers of
new equipment cannot say that out of every 400 new computers imported, all were
fine. Maybe due to shipment, some were damaged or others had some faulty part
that was not detected during the manufacturing process, is the importer going to
ship the faulty units back? I hardly think so.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The enviromental groups will be back at square one on this one unless long
term solutions are gotten. And I think we need to remind them
that a <U>new computer is not a one time, once in
a life time purchase nor are they any safer to dispose.</U> Whether we use
a computer for 2 years, then donate it to some school, the school will have to
dispose/dump it at some stage. Can anyone on this list share information about
the Main Frame Servers of the 80s and early 90s that used to occupy floor
spaces? Where did they go from Kenyan Offices, they were cannot simply cannot
have decayed and turned into dust. Kenyans have been dumping IT goods and
polluting even before the used computers arrived in the market. What has
changed so significantly that the used computers market is being veiwed as the
polluter? Agreed machines like the early pentiums have no use nor need presence
in the market, therefore it would be essential to seperate the real dumping
and the genuine used computers. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I hope Evans and the others in the industry can add more thoughts on this
but an outright ban is not the solution.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rgds.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV></BODY></HTML>