Hello All,<div><br></div><div>as much as we discuss all these,clearly, there is a difference between attending the ICANN meeting and participating actively in the event/conference/deliberations.</div><div><br></div><div>and yes, most importantly we need to understand the process....there have been meetings where it seems like the panel is talking and discussing amongst themselves, but again there has been opportunities granted to us, as, Africans....and we've let them slide under.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Yesterday, I was VERY,VERY disappointed....this is not a personal attack....AfTLD had an opportunity to make a presentation,but they were missing in action.....it is one thing to make your presentation and put emphasis on particular sessions and it is another for your presentation to be flipped through....so why pass on such an opportunity!!!</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>we've got a whole lot of learning and working to do.....both individually and continentally.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Mctim,<br>
<br>
I think the same case applies to all the other African countries,<br>
collective bargaining is the thing, how else will we handle emerging<br>
security challenges and dispute resolution, brings in the question of<br>
"Internet Governance"<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Barrack Otieno<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Mctim,<br>
><br>
> I appreciate your point the thing is understanding the ICANN process,<br>
> you must be empowered to participate in at-large discussions, maybe<br>
> people like you or Njeri Rionge or Waudo can enlighten interested<br>
> members in a townhall meeting, i was just thinking aloud :-), Africa<br>
> is communal.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:36 AM, McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi barack, It would be fairly trivial for kictanet to become an als<br>
>> (member) in at-large. The bottom line is that individuals should<br>
>> become involved as per individual interests. Rgds, mctim<br>
>><br>
>> On 3/11/10, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Good observation Becky,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Am glad similar concerns were raised by the CEO KIXP at a forum with<br>
>>> the President Rod Beckstrom, she articulately raised the fact that the<br>
>>> constituencies need to be demystified and the president alluded to<br>
>>> this fact, i noted that there are "ICANN VETERANS" and they are quick<br>
>>> to notify you on this which literally freezes a fast timer, however<br>
>>> the fact that we are thinking this way shows that we are moving in the<br>
>>> right direction, Dr. Siganga has for a number of times urged the local<br>
>>> community on this forum to join those constituencies the dilemma is<br>
>>> which one to join, we need forums at country level to look at how we<br>
>>> can contribute significantly to the ICANN process, the constituencies<br>
>>> are many and it is easy to get lost in the cloud. Probably it can be a<br>
>>> structured discussion on KICTANET, what do you say Walu?<br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Wamuyu Gatheru<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk">wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> The notion of the USA contributing 90% to ICANN ,because most registrars,<br>
>>>> are based there was challenged at the ccNSO meeting yesterday. The<br>
>>>> registrars obtain their revenues from internet users across the world -<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> Africa's share is growing especially with broadband. Europeans and others<br>
>>>> who spoke thereafter in the ccNSO meeting all began their statements by<br>
>>>> saying that they make payments to ICANN.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> regards, Wamuyu<br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: "<a href="mailto:alice@apc.org">alice@apc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:alice@apc.org">alice@apc.org</a>><br>
>>>> To: <a href="mailto:wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk">wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>> Sent: Tue, 9 March, 2010 17:52:40<br>
>>>> Subject: [kictanet] ICANN: Africa must work hard too...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://wanjiku.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://wanjiku.co.ke/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ICANN: Africa must work hard too...<br>
>>>> 08 03 2010<br>
>>>> Comments: 3<br>
>>>> Available in: English<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> There are many African governments and citizens who do not understand the<br>
>>>> role of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> For some, ICANN should operate in the bottom later ensuring that we have<br>
>>>> internet access and that the pipes are faster. Others think that ICANN<br>
>>>> should be involved in the running of domain registries, which are in<br>
>>>> shambles and in some cases fighting over petty issues. Others think that<br>
>>>> ICANN is there to fund them; talk of reliance on aid.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Of course ICANN has no role in all these things and what it points is that<br>
>>>> more outreach is needed and maybe ICANN should have an office in Africa.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> But how? According to Rod Beckstrom, 90 percent of ICANN contributions<br>
>>>> come from North America, so that may be the reason why we have 3 offices<br>
>>>> in the US and none in Africa.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> That makes sense; if Africa does not contribute anything, how will the<br>
>>>> office be supported? So, for Africa to be on level terms, then we must<br>
>>>> also be willing to contribute, but am not sure how when our registry<br>
>>>> operations are still manual.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I was chatting with Rafik Dammak, who accuses me of complaining or whining<br>
>>>> too much but then, what do I do?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Rafik told me of how the various constituencies within ICANN are always<br>
>>>> looking for participants but what do you do when they dont contribute to<br>
>>>> those meetings and in some cases stay outside within the coffee houses<br>
>>>> instead of meeting rooms?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Yes, its good to have geographical representations but we also need to<br>
>>>> start bringing something on the table and contributing to the debate more<br>
>>>> than we do currently.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regarding the financial contributions, I have no words; will leave it for<br>
>>>> the others.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ends<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>> McTim<br>
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