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color:#1F497D'>Without falling victims of <i>Paralysis</i> Of <i>Analysis</i>?,
Prof has taken the 1st step, let the many innovative Kenyans reap frog and take
this technology to the next level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>EJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Harry Delano<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evans J. Nyagah<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>This is quite informative.. Please keep the debate going.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>S.Murigi Muraya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Results include your SearchWiki
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</span></span><![endif]><a
href="http://www.google.co.ke/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theregister.co.uk%2F2004%2F07%2F29%2Fcisco_huawei_case_ends%2F&rct=j&q=Cisco+sues+Huawei&ei=ESBxS6WoF8Kr4QaL0IXXCQ&usg=AFQjCNH1vPWyiP6O--7FEYDWfk6JC-yO2Q"><em>Cisco</em>
drops <em>Huawei</em> lawsuit • The Register</a><o:p></o:p></h3>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'>29 Jul 2004 <b>...</b> The settlement comes 20 months after <em>Cisco
sued Huawei</em> for allegedly using stolen Cisco's technology to develop a
line-up of routers and <b>...</b><br>
<cite><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/29/">www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/29/</a><b>cisco</b>_<b>huawei</b>_case_ends/</cite><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <b>S.Murigi Muraya</b> <<a href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?<br>
To: Brian Longwe <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com">blongwe@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br>
Well Cisco had sued them for .... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Brian Longwe <<a
href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Actually, if you look at all of Huawei and ZTEs CDMA
products, they purchase/license the core chip from Qualcomm, who have the
patent for the technology. In fact, they ate Qualcomms biggest partner.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:37 AM, S.Murigi Muraya <<a
href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com" target="_blank">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>All well & good. If the Chinese listened
to these kinds of (valid) points there would be no Huawei or ZTE in existence.
Knowledge first (primary) & legalities (later but) not to be ignored.<br>
<br>
No nation has developed by impressing foreigners but primarily by being
civilized (not harming anyone including foreigners), believing in its own
people & by promoting learning with its boundaries.<br>
<br>
SMM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Andrea Bohnstedt <<a
href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>></span><br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent: </span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tuesday, February
09, 2010 09:47</span><br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com" target="_blank">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a></span><br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cc: </span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Re: [kictanet]
Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?</span><br>
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Good morning all, <br>
<br>
I didn't refer to Prof. Kamau, I referred to the statement of Dr Ndemo, which
he kindly qualified. I am aware of the debate of generic drugs and the
arguments made that the public good should override patent rights. But this is,
as I'm sure everyone is also aware of, a complex topic, with an equally complex
international legal framework, and as much as it's easy to hate big pharma, I think
some recognition needs to be given to companies that invest heavily in R&D.
<br>
<br>
In the Kenyan debate specifically, I would find it counterproductive if senior
government officials openly call for patent right infringements (and again, Dr
Ndemo did qualify his statement). Apart from the fact that I'd rather like to
see innovation encouraged, it does nothing for Kenya's image towards
international ICT and tech investors or people looking to outsource processes.
Copy right and patent infringement and intellectual property right theft was
and is a big concern in China, and Kenya has none of the advantages that China
offers to offset these: very low-cost manufacturing environment and a huge
domestic market. It's a bit of a contradiction to call for e.g. certifications
etc to build international credibility, and then offset it with a signal like
this. <br>
<br>
On the IPad specificially: I doubt that Kenyan companies, even if they managed
to copy the IPad, would be able to build it at a lower cost, and the way the
education sector is run now, they'd be stolen just as quickly as any book -
probably faster. I went to the Intel Classmate launch a couple of years ago and
they made a useful point that just handing out kiddie laptops is not the
solution: You need the whole ecosystem to make them productive. Electricity,
connectivity, a place to lock them up, and importantly a teaching plan that
they are integrated into. <br>
<br>
Have a lovely day, <br>
Andrea <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 9 February 2010 09:07, Walubengo J <<a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>@Andrea,<br>
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Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?<br>
<br>
If I was Prof. Kamau, I would carefully ride on both - depending on the
convenience of the laws applicable and the demand for public good. Draw the
parallel with generic HIV medicines...<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Tue, 2/9/10, Andrea Bohnstedt <i><<a
href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>></i></b>
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From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a
href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com" target="_blank">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Getting a hold on cybercrime against women (cyber
pests!)<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:40 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"inherit","serif"'>Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>On 8 February
2010 21:01, <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>Dear listers,<br>
Prof. Kamau, University of Nairobi's engineering school has successifully
reverse engineered the converter box for digital TV. Those willing to
visit the fab lab next week should register with Awiti in my office.
His e-mail is <a href="mailto:nawiti@information.go.ke" target="_blank">nawiti@information.go.ke</a>.<br>
<br>
I am hoping soon we can reverse engineer the ipad so that we can use it to
distribute e-books to all kids in the country and avoid this theft of
textbooks.<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>
<br>
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From: "muriuki mureithi" <<a
href="mailto:mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke" target="_blank">mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:14:20<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<<a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
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