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size=2 face=Arial>Thanks for capturing the spirit of the moment. The B.O.D
meeting is in just under 3 Hours. Let's hope all is well,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=859053313-22012010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>and good tidings will come from the briefing we
anticipate after they conclude.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Good to note, as Njeri (Rionge) mentioned earlier, we keeping
in touch. Let's not relent..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Dorcas Muthoni<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 22, 2010 10:56
AM<BR><B>To:</B> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<BR><B>Cc:</B> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] ICANN meeting and security
concerns<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I have read that the Jamaican cleric has finally been deported.
<BR><BR>I have no experience with ICANN meetings but i believe the Kenyan
organizing committee can be proactive around these circumstances and provide a
joint statement with Kenya security agencies, hotels, government etc on how they
will support the ICANN meeting from a security perspective. Perhaps provide a
feed during this board meeting to have a Kenyan word on the table. <BR><BR>We
have nothing to loose in being proactive to keep the meeting in Nairobi but
showing teamwork with all parties.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Wamuyu Gatheru <SPAN
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<DIV>This security issue and the meeting is multifaceted. However, security
assessments are often made in regard to context (i.e Adam's question if Friday
and worse will recur). I think the answer to that question, in regard
terrorists, would be similar in any country. The probability is 50:50.
Europe got a bomber on a US bound flight...No one, anywhere in the world, can
be guranteed that a terrorist will not strike them. The Kenya govt., long
before ICANN Nrb plans, has been working closely with Americans
on terrorism - so intelligence is as good as it can be.</DIV>
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<DIV>There are broader issues here that make Kenya a very weak partner to
ICANN. A board meeting is being planned to discuss security in Kenya and the
input of local organisers is not central to that meeting. This is an unfair
set up that is likely to work against the meeting being held in Nairobi. This
naming and numbering institution needs to be democratised so that all players
have equal power. Then no one will be threatening to cancel a meeting (without
good and objective reason) where govt agencies (who already have enough to do)
are already in planning mode.</DIV>
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<DIV>rgds, Wamuyu<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Adam Peake <<A
href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp"
target=_blank>ajp@glocom.ac.jp</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk"
target=_blank>wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<<A href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
target=_blank>kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, 20 January, 2010
16:50:39<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[kictanet] ICANN meeting and security concerns<BR></FONT>
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>At 12:36 PM +0000 1/20/10, Grace Bomu wrote:<BR>>This
would be unreasonable. There are many high profile meetings going<BR>>on in
Nairobi despite our insecurity problems. In addition,
conference<BR>>tourists who come to Nairobi venture out to social spots in
search of<BR>>entertainment on their own.<BR>>It is a high time we
got more reps into the decision making organs of<BR>>ICANN. Any Kenyans
running?<BR><BR><BR>Grace, Hi. Good idea, and ICANN's nominating
<BR>committee is taking applications for candidates <BR>now <<A
href="http://nomcom.icann.org/"
target=_blank>http://nomcom.icann.org/</A>><BR><BR>I too hope the meeting
happens. Looking forward <BR>to seeing many of you in a couple of months, and
<BR>hopefully at the KICC or a bar in town, not stuck <BR>on a bus for hours
on the way to or from the UN <BR>:-)<BR><BR>How many local people would bother
to attend of <BR>the meeting was at the UN? Understand from <BR>Rebecca's
comment it's something like a separate <BR>country and a pain to get in. ICANN
meetings <BR>should be open. That's one of the requirements of <BR>the request
for proposals for holding a meeting. <BR>And I think McTim's right, the host
country <BR>paying for a gala dinner is another requirement <BR>(ICANN picks
up the rest of the bill for the <BR>meeting, everything from conference rooms
to <BR>power.)<BR><BR>A thought, or really a question about last <BR>Friday's
disturbances. Were they a one off, or <BR>might they happen again? Is
this a permanent or <BR>semi-permanent change, or will the trouble pass
<BR>and be over when the Jamaican guy is deported and <BR>things calm
down? I know this is impossible to <BR>answer 100%, and I'm definitely
not looking for <BR>an official position on this, but what do those <BR>of you
in Nairobi think? If I were an ICANN <BR>board member thinking about the
meeting, this <BR>might be useful to hear comments
on.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>>On 1/20/10, <A
href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target=_blank>alice@apc.org</A> <<A
href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target=_blank>alice@apc.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Home<BR>>><BR>>>
About<BR>>><BR>>> Contact<BR>>><BR>>>
ICANN meeting and security concerns<BR>>><BR>>> 20 01
2010<BR>>> By rebecca wanjiku<BR>>> Comments:
0<BR>>><BR>>> Available in:
English<BR>>><BR>>> In March 2008, Nairobi was supposed to
host Internet Corporation for<BR>>> Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN) meeting. This is a huge meeting, ICANN<BR>>> uses about $
2 million for these meetings, am sure you know what it means<BR>>>
for the economy.<BR>>><BR>>> But the events that followed
the 2007 elections meant that the meeting was<BR>>> cancelled, it
was such a shame but that was understandable; after all, you<BR>>>
do not want the people who control internet resources to fall into the
traps<BR>>> of rival tribal gangs or to be caught in the cross
fire.<BR>>><BR>>> After another round of presentations last
year, the Kenya delegation led by<BR>>> Kenic and the
Communications Commission of Kenya was able to convince the<BR>>>
ICANN community that Kenya is safe enough, and they agreed to host
the<BR>>> meeting this March.<BR>>><BR>>> We
have been busy sweeping the roads and upgrading the hotels just to
make<BR>>> sure that the most important ICANN community is happy,
but they have never<BR>>> been, and I do not think they will ever
be, if you ask me. I have been<BR>>> talking to sources within the
organizing committee and ICANN has always had<BR>>> one niggling
problem after another.<BR>>><BR>>> Last Friday's fracas with
the muslims seems to have tipped the balance;<BR>>> ICANN now is
contemplating moving the meeting to another safer
city.<BR>>><BR>>> But if you ask me or any other ordinary
Kenyan, I think ICANN does not<BR>>> understand the country and
how it operates. Since 1998, Kenya has never been<BR>>> secure,
according to US and UK embassies, yet its their installations
that<BR>>> make us targets.<BR>>><BR>>> For
whatever reasons, the country has always been rated poorly
security<BR>>> wise, but which city is safe? New York? J' Burg?
Cairo? Cassablanca? Am sure<BR>>> this is open to
debate.<BR>>><BR>>> I think ICANN has its double standards;
if they were truly concerned about<BR>>> the security, the meeting
in Seoul would not have taken place; South Korea<BR>>> is always
under alert because of North Korea nuclear
intentions.<BR>>><BR>>> The meeting in Mexico city would not
have gone on, after all every one there<BR>>> is said to carry a
gun and the senior executives within ICANN membership<BR>> > were
at risk of kidnappings. But the meetings took
place.<BR>>><BR>>> So, why all the security farce about
Nairobi?<BR>>><BR>>> I would love to point out a similar
incident during the 2005 or around there<BR>>> Cricket world cup,
where New Zealand forfeited their match with Kenya in<BR>> >
Nairobi because of security situation. Sri Lanka agreed to play their
match<BR>>> in Nairobi provided they were given top notch
security, the government<BR>> >
obliged.<BR>>><BR>>> By the time the plane carrying the Sri
Lanka cricket team entered the Kenyan<BR>>> air space, they were
escorted by helicopter gunships and all the other stuff<BR>> > you
see in the movies. But Sri Lanka soon realized that no one was
bothered<BR>>> with them; we whipped them and by the time they
were going back to the<BR>>> airport, they took taxis and realized
that no one cares.<BR>>><BR>>> In short, ICANN should know
that they will come, they will hold their<BR>>> meeting, they will
go away, and no one will probably remember they were<BR>>> here.
How many people know about ICANN and what it does? How many
people<BR>>> know that the people present are online
millionaires?<BR>>><BR>>> ICANN has made demands that the
meeting be moved to the UNEP Complex in<BR>>> Gigiri, and that the
government should pay for all the charges bla bla... I<BR>>> think
this is a move to alienate themselves from the ordinary
kenyans.<BR>>> Getting to Gigiri is hectic let alone getting
through the mean UN security<BR>>>
staff.<BR>>><BR>>> Trust me, I have had my share of security
incidences in Nairobi, but I do<BR>>> not think its worth
canceling a meeting.<BR>>><BR>>> >From my sources, I am
told the government is paying for the gala dinner and<BR>>> all
that, in other countries, ICANN has paid for that. So I think this
is<BR>>> just a way for ICANN to make their demands and
demonstrate their authority.<BR>>><BR>>> I am not saying
that security measures should be ignored, but just know that<BR>>>
poor security rating means more hardship allowance for the UN and
embassy<BR>>> staff, so its in their interest to show Kenya on
fire all the time.<BR>>><BR>>> One thing you should know
that Kenya is a highly political company, all year<BR>>> round,
stupid politics and we the media love it and exalt it, so deal
with<BR>>> that. When you come and when you go, we will remain the
same, and it does<BR>>> not mean ICANN will change anything, so
get over it.<BR>>><BR>>> By the way, most people who will
come will be holed up in lavish 5-star<BR>>> hotels where the
thugs will not reach. The insecurity problem is for people<BR>>>
like us who will have to walk home and deal with the neighborhood
thugs.<BR>>><BR>>> The upshot of it is that ICANN should
come, hold their meeting, give us the<BR>>> revenue, visit Maasai
Mara and all the other areas, and go home. I am sure<BR>>> there
will be enough cops guarding everywhere.<BR>>><BR>>> So,
insecure or not, I think the meeting should go on. If you guys are
not<BR>>> convinced, then you can move the meeting to wherever you
want!<BR>>><BR>>> Ends<BR>>><BR>>> by
rebecca<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
smartphone from Zain Kenya<BR>>>
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