<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Seems like Dr.Ndemo clarified that it isn't a case of Kenya getting in bed with M$ (How would those babies look?). It's a case of not-clear reporting by the narrator of the news clip.<br><br><div>8~) <br></div><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 11/4/09, Gakuru Alex <i><alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [ke-internetusers] Re: ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized?<br>To: bitange@jambo.co.ke<br>Cc: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net><br>Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 12:36 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">This is great! Absolutely need similar "open"
skill set standards<br>model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house<br>reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY,<br>at all, or at the very least.<br><br>regards,<br><br>a.<br><br>On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM, <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>> About ICDL<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.icdlegypt.gov.eg/Inside.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.icdlegypt.gov.eg/Inside.aspx</a><br>><br>><br>> Ndemo<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>> My Opinion Alex, i have done a lot of Social Work through Project<br>>> Discovery<br>>> (www.projectdiscovery.or.ke) and i have also taught ICDL programs for a<br>>> while, that is my take based on my experiences , let the people decide, i<br>>> think it would pay if we focus on the global picture does that answer
???<br>>><br>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gakuru Alex<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>>><br>>>> ???<br>>>><br>>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Barrack Otieno<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> wrote:<br>>>> > Dr. Ndemo,<br>>>> > Permit me to differ with you on this and agree with Waudo's position,<br>>>> such<br>>>> > a move would be defeatist, let the market decide what it wants with<br>>>> regard<br>>>> > to the Computer Applications, the issue here is about the skills and<br>>>> the<br>>>> > market should determine that , Africa as a continent and we as
a<br>>>> country<br>>>> > are trying to catch up with the developed world and only "freedom" can<br>>>> can<br>>>> > bring about innovation, i think governmnet should focus on<br>>>> Infrastructure<br>>>> > and the global policy environment. I would like to get the opinion<br>>>> of<br>>>> > other policy makers on the same issue.<br>>>> > Regards<br>>>> ><br>>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gakuru Alex<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> > wrote:<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> Thank you.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> If they report your Open Source clarification clearly, then we may<br>>>> >> consider dropping our open source
complaint to MCK.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> regards,<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> a.<br>>>> >><br>>>> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>>>> >> > I will be on KTN in 5 minutes to clarify this. Please watch.<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > Ndemo<br>>>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----<br>>>> >> > From: Gakuru Alex <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:05:01<br>>>> >> > To: Zacs<<a
ymailto="mailto:mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com">mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com</a>><br>>>> >> > Cc: Skunkworks Forum<<a ymailto="mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>>;<br>>>> >> > ke-users<<a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="/mc/compose?to=ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a>><br>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be<br>>>> Gazetted:<br>>>> Is<br>>>> >> > Open<br>>>> >> > Office recognized?<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > I have reliable information to the effect that the PS mentioned<br>>>> both<br>>>> >> > Open Source ICDL and Proprietary ICDL. Now looking for the
actual<br>>>> KTN<br>>>> >> > footage to confirm what was actually reported, upon whose<br>>>> >> > confirmation, if found skewed reporting as true we shall lodge a<br>>>> >> > formal, open complaint against the media house to the Media Council<br>>>> of<br>>>> >> > Kenya for misinformation on such a sensitive national subject.<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > Regards,<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > Alex<br>>>> >> ><br>>>> >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Zacs <<a ymailto="mailto:mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com">mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>> >> >> I seriously believe there is no way ICDL can be a proprietary<br>>>> licence.<br>>>> >> >><br>>>> >> >>
________________________________<br>>>> >> >> From: Gakuru Alex <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> >> >> To: Skunkworks Forum <<a ymailto="mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>>; ke-users<br>>>> >> >> <<a ymailto="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net" href="/mc/compose?to=ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a>><br>>>> >> >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:19:57 AM<br>>>> >> >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted:<br>>>> Is<br>>>> >> >> Open<br>>>> >> >> Office recognized?<br>>>> >> >><br>>>> >> >> If they only gazette ICDL and
leave out OpenICDL<br>>>> >> >> <a href="http://www.openicdl.org/" target="_blank">http://www.openicdl.org/</a> we shall go to court to have the Gazette<br>>>> >> >> Notice annulled on the basis of its illegality hence illegitimacy.<br>>>> >> >> Contemplating such an illegal move would leave sour scars and in<br>>>> any<br>>>> >> >> case we no longer have time for niceties play with Microsofties<br>>>> >> >> family..<br>>>> >> >><br>>>> >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Rad! <<a ymailto="mailto:conradakunga@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conradakunga@gmail.com">conradakunga@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> wrote:<br>>>> >> >>> I sincerely hope this is not the case. It would be very<br>>>> unfortunate<br>>>> if<br>>>> >>
>>> government forces citizens to take a certain route.<br>>>> >> >>> From my small investigation ICDL seems to be a pretty widespread<br>>>> >> >>> standard<br>>>> >> >>> that is supposed to be vendor neutral and not linked to any<br>>>> particular<br>>>> >> >>> software. See this link for some<br>>>> >> >>> information. <a href="http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108" target="_blank">http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108</a><br>>>> as<br>>>> >> >>> well<br>>>> >> >>> as<br>>>> >> >>> this one <a href="http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119" target="_blank">http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119</a>. I<br>>>> hope<br>>>> >>
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