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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Well .. I can't comment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>One thing .. I don't think the regulator plays a
role in who is buying what .... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Kai</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kwach@archway-productions.com
href="mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com">Akich Kwach</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke
href="mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke">kai wulff</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 09, 2009 10:44
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open
ended circuit</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV align=justify><FONT face=Calibri>Kai, That was and remains a smart
strategy. The truth is we can never get rid of satelite technology, we can
only reduce its reliance as it will stil continue to serve
the maginalised areas where it might take ages to roll out fibre. So my
question is; What would have motivated some operators to sign contract with
satelite companies for such a long duration, taking into account the fast
changing glogal trends? I may be wrong, but such arrangements could
have been intentional and personalised, hence should be scrutinised by the
regulator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=justify><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=justify><FONT face=Calibri>Akich Kwach</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke href="mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke">kai wulff</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=kwach@archway-productions.com
href="mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com">kwach@archway-productions.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 09, 2009 5:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open
ended circuit</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">KDN
had about 1000Mbps on Sat with contracts that were month to month. We
retained approx. 250Mbps for redundancy (we could have dropped it but
decided we need a plan B just in case).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">I
don’t think that anybody can hold us hostage …<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Kai<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=DE
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<A
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</A>
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B>Im
Auftrag von </B>S.Murigi Muraya<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Friday, October 09, 2009
00:02<BR><B>An:</B> <A
href="mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke">kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>
KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and
Open ended circuit<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Why has KDN been able to lower their Internet prices by
90%? <BR><BR>Is it that they do not have 25 year contracts with the
satellite companies that are holding us hostage? <BR><BR><BR>Walubengo J
wrote: <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'inherit','serif'">Robert,<BR><BR>I am glad you
liked the predictions I made last year about internet service
costs. I am sure you might also like my suggested
price-reduction mechanisms I am making this year <BR><BR>@ <A
href="http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf">http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf</A><BR><BR>Unfortunately
nobody listens to Academicians in these parts of the world - no wonder
most lecturers abandon classroom to become politicians...so that
someone can listen to them ;-). What's more I get worried when I look
at some of the approaches and strategies the regulator CCK has
proposed as a way of containing Tariffs (including internet pricing?)
from Operators (Licensees). <BR><BR>But since I am not an
Operator, I will leave it for the Operators to present their
case...but they will be hard-pressed to explain whey they should not
be considered biased...cant wait for that stakeholders
meeting.<BR><BR>As for the PS to apologise...he is of age to decide
for himself. But he could learn from that Politician who had
promised us a Constitution in 100days. He didnt deny it - he just
clarified that the days were not consecutive days ;-). And so it
is the same with the internet costs. Prices will indeed come
down as promised. But obviously not
tomorrow.<BR><BR>regards.<BR><BR>walu.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 10/8/09,
robert yawe <I><A
href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></A></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'inherit','serif'"><BR>From: robert yawe <A
href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></A><BR>Subject:
Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<BR>To: "Walubengo J" <A
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></A><BR>Cc:
"KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <A
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></A><BR>Date:
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:27 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Hi,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">I
finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent
me concerning the marine cable issue, which was
comprehensive.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">My
suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this
presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing
the buck for failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age
of connectivity.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">From
the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own
was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow
connectivity, we did not understand that the model for Internet
access in the US cannot be applied in countries outside that
continent as the bulk of the content is resident in the US
.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">For
a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an IT
magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the
village madman for advocating about the need to develop local
content. I was incensed by the action by the then Karisa
Communications (Makatiani & Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to
shut down their bulleting board based service to provide us with
the so called Internet connection yet we where on the right
track as we created local content out of
necessity.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Today
I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that the
marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet
access, you wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing
its praises.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">I
say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the
agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK &
other), owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild
goose chase. PS Ndemo the creation of local content falls smack
in your docket and I have said this before all the government
has to do is digitize all those reports in their possession
beginning with the constitution, sessional papers, census, exam
results, list of village polytechnics and the presidents diary
then we can all move from their.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'inherit','serif'">Again thanks
Walubengo.<BR><BR>Robert Yawe<BR>KAY System Technologies
Ltd<BR>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<BR>P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
00200<BR>Kenya<BR><BR>Tel: +254722511225,
+254202010696<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <I><A
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></A></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'inherit','serif'"><BR>From: Walubengo J <A
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></A><BR>Subject:
Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</A><BR>Cc:
"KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <A
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></A><BR>Date:
Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'inherit','serif'">McTim, Kai,<BR><BR>I can
bet you have confused more than shedding light on this
issue. But I cant blame you. It's not something one
can explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a
full-semester course issue... but here could be some
highlights.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf"
target=_blank>http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf</A><BR><BR>walu.<BR><BR><BR>---
On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
wrote:<BR><BR>> From: McTim
<dogwallah@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [kictanet]
TEAMS and Open ended circuit<BR>> To: jwalu@yahoo.com<BR>>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><BR>> Date: Friday,
October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM<BR>> Hi Robert,<BR>> <BR>> On
Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe
<robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><BR>> wrote:<BR>>
><BR>> > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has
not<BR>> gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I
got the<BR>> answer.<BR>> ><BR>> > The headline
in the newpaper story indicated that<BR>> Jamii, a partner in
the TEAMS project had finally connected<BR>> to Europe from
Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. <BR>> Where
did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to<BR>>
Fujaira?<BR>> ><BR>> <BR>> SEA-ME-WE-3 and
SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in<BR>> Fujiarah. I
assume<BR>> there is a central landing station, with links to
EMIX at<BR>> that<BR>> physical location.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> ><BR>> > What this statement would suggest is
that the<BR>> termination in Fujaira does not actually
connect into the<BR>> Internet backbone but is actually an
"open end" from where<BR>> the providers must find a carrier,
read IPOP, to get them<BR>> onto the Internet.<BR>>
><BR>> <BR>> That's what I got from the newspaper
articles as well.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> >
Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity<BR>>
issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect<BR>>
electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had<BR>>
already wired the inside of the house for lights,
sockets<BR>> and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick
a switch a<BR>> light will come on (subject to power
rationing schedule and<BR>> having bought and installed an
energy saving bulb).<BR>> <BR>> The analogy is
flawed. The power company is a service<BR>> provider,
the<BR>> submarine cables are not providing Internet
connectivity as<BR>> such.<BR>> <BR>> Power flows down
a power line to your house,that's what you<BR>>
consume.<BR>> <BR>> light flows down glass (Layer 1 and
2). Internet<BR>> Packets (Layer 3 and<BR>> higher)
are encoded in this light.<BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> >
Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable<BR>>
termination shade some light on this issue for my
benefit<BR>> and also many others out there.<BR>> <BR>>
TEAMS cable carries light waves. The investors in<BR>>
TEAMS have the<BR>> right to this capacity. ISPs have
to buy transit<BR>> (their Internet<BR>> access) from
other providers(or peer with lots of other<BR>>
players). As<BR>> an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either
buy transit at some<BR>> location<BR>> (London, Amsterdam,
New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul<BR>> it to<BR>>
Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE.<BR>> <BR>> Have no coffee
in the house, so this might be confusing,<BR>> sorry.<BR>>
<BR>> --<BR>> Cheers,<BR>> <BR>> McTim<BR>> "A
name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where<BR>>
it is. A<BR>> route indicates how we get there." Jon
Postel<BR>> <BR>>
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