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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>KDN had about 1000Mbps on Sat with contracts that were month to
month. We retained approx. 250Mbps for redundancy (we could have dropped it but
decided we need a plan B just in case).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I don’t think that anybody can hold us hostage …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Kai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;
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kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>Im
Auftrag von </b>S.Murigi Muraya<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 00:02<br>
<b>An:</b> kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Why has KDN been able to lower their Internet prices by 90%?
<br>
<br>
Is it that they do not have 25 year contracts with the satellite companies that
are holding us hostage? <br>
<br>
<br>
Walubengo J wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>Robert,<br>
<br>
I am glad you liked the predictions I made last year about internet service
costs. I am sure you might also like my suggested price-reduction
mechanisms I am making this year <br>
<br>
@ <a href="http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf">http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Unfortunately nobody listens to Academicians in these parts of the world - no
wonder most lecturers abandon classroom to become politicians...so that
someone can listen to them ;-). What's more I get worried when I look at some
of the approaches and strategies the regulator CCK has proposed as a
way of containing Tariffs (including internet pricing?) from Operators
(Licensees). <br>
<br>
But since I am not an Operator, I will leave it for the Operators to present
their case...but they will be hard-pressed to explain whey they should not be
considered biased...cant wait for that stakeholders meeting.<br>
<br>
As for the PS to apologise...he is of age to decide for himself. But he
could learn from that Politician who had promised us a Constitution in
100days. He didnt deny it - he just clarified that the days were not
consecutive days ;-). And so it is the same with the internet
costs. Prices will indeed come down as promised. But obviously
not tomorrow.<br>
<br>
regards.<br>
<br>
walu.<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Thu, 10/8/09, robert yawe <i><a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></a></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: robert yawe <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"><robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk></a><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<br>
To: "Walubengo J" <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></a><br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></a><br>
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:27 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>I finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent me
concerning the marine cable issue, which was comprehensive.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>My suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this
presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing the buck for
failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age of connectivity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>From the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own
was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow connectivity, we did
not understand that the model for Internet access in the US cannot be
applied in countries outside that continent as the bulk of the content is
resident in the US .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>For a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an IT
magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the village
madman for advocating about the need to develop local content. I was
incensed by the action by the then Karisa Communications (Makatiani &
Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to shut down their bulleting board based service
to provide us with the so called Internet connection yet we where on the
right track as we created local content out of necessity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>Today I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that the
marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet access, you
wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing its praises.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'>I say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the
agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK & other),
owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild goose chase. PS Ndemo
the creation of local content falls smack in your docket and I have said
this before all the government has to do is digitize all those reports in
their possession beginning with the constitution, sessional papers, census,
exam results, list of village polytechnics and the presidents diary then we
can all move from their.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>Again thanks
Walubengo.<br>
<br>
Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
Kenya<br>
<br>
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <i><a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></a></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Walubengo J <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"><jwalu@yahoo.com></a><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<br>
To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke"><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></a><br>
Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>McTim, Kai,<br>
<br>
I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this issue.
But I cant blame you. It's not something one can explain in two or
three emails. Typcially its a full-semester course issue... but here could
be some highlights.<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf</a><br>
<br>
walu.<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
> From: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com><br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<br>
> To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM<br>
> Hi Robert,<br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not<br>
> gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the<br>
> answer.<br>
> ><br>
> > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that<br>
> Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected<br>
> to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. <br>
> Where did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to<br>
> Fujaira?<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in<br>
> Fujiarah. I assume<br>
> there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at<br>
> that<br>
> physical location.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > What this statement would suggest is that the<br>
> termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the<br>
> Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where<br>
> the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them<br>
> onto the Internet.<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity<br>
> issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect<br>
> electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had<br>
> already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets<br>
> and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a<br>
> light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and<br>
> having bought and installed an energy saving bulb).<br>
> <br>
> The analogy is flawed. The power company is a service<br>
> provider, the<br>
> submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as<br>
> such.<br>
> <br>
> Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you<br>
> consume.<br>
> <br>
> light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2). Internet<br>
> Packets (Layer 3 and<br>
> higher) are encoded in this light.<br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable<br>
> termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit<br>
> and also many others out there.<br>
> <br>
> TEAMS cable carries light waves. The investors in<br>
> TEAMS have the<br>
> right to this capacity. ISPs have to buy transit<br>
> (their Internet<br>
> access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other<br>
> players). As<br>
> an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some<br>
> location<br>
> (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul<br>
> it to<br>
> Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE.<br>
> <br>
> Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing,<br>
> sorry.<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Cheers,<br>
> <br>
> McTim<br>
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where<br>
> it is. A<br>
> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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