<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Bill,<br><br>Leaving the list is not the solution....in my view there is more good than bad.<br><br>N<br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Kagai <billkagai@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> ke-users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:57:39 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Kenya:
Consumers furious over high internet prices<br></font><br>
Alex,<br>Robert is apparently well known following emails I received from<br>highly reputable people in the Human Rights sector where he last<br>attacked. Through a <a target="_blank" href="http://bdix.net">bdix.net</a> mailing list. You have opted to keep<br>quiet about this.<br><br>If you continue protecting his identity and he remains a member of<br>your organisation, you ought to be ACCOUNTABLE as the chairman and let<br>him face the full wrath of his RESPONSIBILITY. Otherwise, you are an<br>accomplice.<br><br>Don't mix the sad issue of Defamation today with Consumer Rights. I<br>also want cheap internet.<br><br>Also take heed, I do not represent Michael Joseph or any other person<br>who faced attacks from Robert but I took responsibility to unearth the<br>culprit as a proud Kenyan who is not ready to see one soul drive us<br>into a destructive path.<br><br>Unless you become bold and expose him, I am sorry I do not have<br>anything good to say about
you too and your organisation. Actually, I<br>do not know what am doing in this list any more.<br><br>Good bye....ALL. I can certainly get better things to do.....<br><br>Bill<br><br>On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gakuru Alex <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Bill,<br>><br>> "The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win,<br>> you're still a rat."- Lily Tomlin.<br>> I shall steer clear of the lowly races.<br>><br>> inline responses,<br>><br>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill Kagai <<a ymailto="mailto:billkagai@gmail.com" href="mailto:billkagai@gmail.com">billkagai@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Alex,<br>>> Don't beat around the bush.<br>><br>> Bill = Impunity? Let's see....<br>><br>> But if you wish;<br>><br>> 1) find out from your Safaricom friend where I was all
day today. Ask<br>> them for my mobile phone user location tracking and the days calls and<br>> messages log to verify that indeed I had my handset on me all day. You<br>> are aware that they all have all this huge amount of data(SMS, calls,<br>> location, transaction, whom we call, when, conversation details etc )<br>> on all of our communications on their servers, right? We do not ask<br>> for Data Protection bill aimlessly.<br>><br>> 2) Indulge your investigations skills more- e.g. ask my neighbours if<br>> I was at the location given unto you.<br>><br>> 3) Go to Kenya Power and Lighting Company and ask them for their power<br>> rationing program for today. And confirm whether indeed my location<br>> had an outage.<br>><br>> 4) I spoke with several respected senior personalities today who<br>> needed data and information. Without power, I regretted, I could not<br>> send them via emails. I am ready
to give you their numbers for you to<br>> confirm if indeed I told them so.<br>><br>>> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person??<br>>> 2. Do you have his contacts??<br>>> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari??<br>>><br>>> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten<br>>> this matter!!!!<br>><br>> I shall not qualify or dignify your allegations with an honourable response.<br>><br>> @Journalist: Anne-Marie Kinyanjui (and despite your disclaimer):<br>><br>> Are you are qualified to advice us on consumer advocacy and<br>> telecommunications investments? You wrote me an email asking for me<br>> for data. What did you really want it for?<br>> Whom does a journalist write for? See for "professional journalist"<br><span>> here <<a target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video">http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video</a>></span><br>><br>> I can send to
kictanet the KBC and NTV News clips of the same Michael<br>> Joseph interview, then all you can understand what I mean. Moderator<br>> let me know I can do that? (~10MB).<br>><br>> ----------<br>> Finally,<br>><br>> My data-based analysis remains valid, until and unless Safaricom's<br>> Michael Joseph offers verifiable proof on the contrary. Internet<br>> prices have to come down, immediately!<br>><br>> regards,<br>><br>> Alex<br>><br>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something already<br>>>> illegal.... Please take note.<br>>>><br>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <<a ymailto="mailto:billkagai@gmail.com"
href="mailto:billkagai@gmail.com">billkagai@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,<br>>>>><br>>>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not<br>>>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this<br>>>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. This<br>>>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police<br>>>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for libel<br>>>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers<br>>>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with<br>>>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true<br>>>>> identity of one Onyango
Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who<br>>>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari???<br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>> Bildad Kagai<br>>>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited<br>>>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor<br>>>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue<br>>>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200<br>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya<br>>>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332<br>>>>> Fax. Rendered Obsolete<br>>>>> S - 1�17'13.8"<br>>>>> E - 36�48'22.7"<br>>>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mediacorp.co.ke">www.mediacorp.co.ke</a><br>>>>> --<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><span><a target="_blank"
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