Thank you. <div><br></div><div>Crystal<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Crystal,<br>
At yesterday's meeting, we created a team comprising of bankers,<br>
operators, vendors, government and other inerested parties to come up with<br>
a framework. Paul Kukubo will chair the team. They are to report back in<br>
a week's time. Please contact him directly.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ndemo.<br>
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<br>
> Can someone in the government send the information on what is required for<br>
> laptop suppliers to be eligible to participate? Who would suppliers<br>
> contact?<br>
><br>
> Many blessings,<br>
><br>
> Crystal<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Solomon Mburu <<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> My take on this one:<br>
>><br>
>> I would the govt give two choices, either go for a Laptop without any<br>
>> Operating System, and you sort yourself on how you can acquire one<br>
>> and/or<br>
>> pre-install trial OS's (assuming you'll go for window-based OS) or, go<br>
>> for<br>
>> Alex's opinion. Pre-install a FOSS and let the consumers decide what<br>
>> they<br>
>> want.<br>
>><br>
>> I gather there are people who cannot use any FOSS due to either<br>
>> ignorance<br>
>> or not well acquainted with it's operations or still, being used to<br>
>> Window-based OSs.<br>
>><br>
>> Giving people choices, will create an urge to diversify their needs.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2009/7/23 Victor Gathara <<a href="mailto:v-gathara@dfid.gov.uk">v-gathara@dfid.gov.uk</a>><br>
>><br>
>>> Alex<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for this. Have heard a lot about this project but scanty<br>
>>> details.<br>
>>> Couple of questions:<br>
>>><br>
>>> - How does the lending institution confirm that the loans are for<br>
>>> laptops<br>
>>> and not other 'needs'; a kind of receipting system?<br>
>>> - How to prevent individuals/institutions making money off this i.e.<br>
>>> buy<br>
>>> laptops to sell on at a profit? Branding?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Probably all been worked out but as the article says we would like to<br>
>>> have<br>
>>> more info on this project.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Victor<br>
>>><br>
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>>> To: Victor Gathara<br>
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>>> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [ke-internetusers] your opportunity own a<br>
>>> laptop,<br>
>>> ,interest-free government facilitated loan<br>
>>><br>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>>> From: Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com">gakuru@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:26 AM<br>
>>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] your opportunity own a laptop, ,<br>
>>> interest-free<br>
>>> government facilitated loan<br>
>>> To: ke-users <<a href="mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net">ke-internetusers@bdix.net</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Folks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was at this meeting- a very good initiative. Proposed loan maximum<br>
>>> 50,000/=. I requested that they be supplied unbundled - i.e. without<br>
>>> Operating System or other software. Microsoft Windows costs 10,000/=<br>
>>> Microsoft Office 17,000/= total cost 27,000/= (more than half the loan<br>
>>> amount!!). That would mean that you would have to buy a low-spec laptop<br>
>>> to<br>
>>> accommodate proprietary software costs within 50K limit.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Costs that would be done away with thus enable owners get highest specs<br>
>>> laptops, if choose FOSS operating systems (such as <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">www.ubuntu.com</a>,<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.pcbsd.org" target="_blank">www.pcbsd.org</a> (Ken Kasina developed installer!!),<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">www.fedoraproject.org</a>,<br>
>>> <a href="http://en.opensuse.org" target="_blank">en.opensuse.org</a>, <a href="http://www.redhat.com" target="_blank">www.redhat.com</a>, etc). that all come with free<br>
>>> OpenOffice. Give local IT youths installation contracts for these and<br>
>>> MORE<br>
>>> FOSS applicatications, at, say, 7,000/= per laptop.<br>
>>> 1 million x 7,000 =????? :) talk about national software cost savings,<br>
>>> youth empowerment, promoting local innovation, and taxes retentions...<br>
>>><br>
>>> Obviously, not to exclude them, Microsoft are entitle to pitch sales<br>
>>> too,,<br>
>>> we see which makes business and national sense?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Companies, organisations, associations can also get the interest-free<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> laptops loans for their employees, staff, members. Will keep you<br>
>>> updated as<br>
>>> events unfold.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Enjoy,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Alex<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----<br>
>>><br>
>>> [Business Daily]<br>
>>> State to guarantee loans for laptops<br>
>>> By Okuttah Mark<br>
>>> Thursday, July 23 2009<br>
>>><br>
>>> Organisations or individuals seeking to take advantage of this year's<br>
>>> budget stimulus package on laptops are free to negotiate with any<br>
>>> banking<br>
>>> institution, computer vendors or the telecommunication companies.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This follows the announcement by the government through the Permanent<br>
>>> Secretary for Information, Dr Bitange Ndemo. that the government will<br>
>>> only<br>
>>> facilitate the process but the negotiations will be done by interested<br>
>>> parties on their own.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The incentive was offered by Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta during<br>
>>> this<br>
>>> year's budget and aims at accelerating computer access in the country.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In the one million computer campaign, the government will guarantee<br>
>>> money<br>
>>> borrowed either by individuals or organisations to buy the laptop<br>
>>> between<br>
>>> now and June, next year. The government will also pay the interest on<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> loan.<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1gfz/-/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/628254/-/u8x1gfz/-/index.html</a><br>
>>><br>
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