<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I second that as their comments would be very useful going forward as the findings and discussions need to feed into policy.<br><br>N<br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "godera@skyweb.co.ke" <godera@skyweb.co.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> elizaslider@yahoo.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 5, 2009 8:51:23 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO
Discussions, Govt Subsidies<br></font><br>
<br>As a matter of interest, is there anyone in the Vision 2030 team or the NESC on<br>this list? I would love to hear a comment from them on how they intend to work<br>with us to wake up this industry.<br><br>Gilda Odera<br>Quoting Barrack Otieno <<a ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br>> Thanks Nyaki, i have copied the Statistics on a word document for onward<br>> digestion, i was just being loud to sell my point, i enjoy learning from our<br>> scholars MM, Waema, Dr Ndemo and many others on the list the discussion is<br>> great<br>> <br>> <br>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Catherine Adeya<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a>>wrote:<br>> <br>> > Barrack,<br>> ><br>> > The great thing about such a forum is there is no right or wrong answer
as<br>> > long as you are on topic...one need not be a scholar to make a worthwhile<br>> > contribution. Even some of us...so called scholars sometimes fumble in our<br>> > responses....I read some of what I wrote yesterday and saw a few errors<br>> but<br>> > hey I wanted to ensure that I was contributing in a timely manner. The<br>> long<br>> > and short of what I am trying to say is your contribution below is well<br>> > understood and does not require further scholarly elaboration, others will<br>> > just tease out issues from it and flesh it out if need be.<br>> ><br>> > I hope this also helps the many listers out there in cyberspace who would<br>> > like to say something but are feeling slightly overwhelmed by these<br>> > 'scholars'. Enjoy chatting....KICTANET is your space............<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Nyaki<br>> ><br>> >
------------------------------<br>> > *From:* Barrack Otieno <<a ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>> > *To:* <a ymailto="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com" href="mailto:elizaslider@yahoo.com">elizaslider@yahoo.com</a><br>> > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> > *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2009 9:03:10 AM<br>> > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies<br>> ><br>> > Walu, and fellow Listers, i think the clause that requires local investors<br>> > to on twenty percent might be counter productive for an emerging market<br>> such<br>> > as Kenya at this point in time, i like d Dr Ndemo's suggestion of<br>> requiring<br>> > the companies to list
on the stock exchange so that locals can then own a<br>> > chunk of it, remember Kenya is a "small market" to most multinationals no<br>> > wonder large companies prefer dealing with clusters MEA and the likes. On<br>> > another note Barclays Bank had a program where they were taking members of<br>> > their business club to Hong Kong and the likes, fellow listers we should<br>> not<br>> > underestimate the Value of EXPOSURE, Kenya has a well educated workforce<br>> > but they just need to be tickled by exposure and you will be surprised at<br>> > the outcome, could someone help me elaborate on this it may not be<br>> scholarly<br>> > enough !<br>> ><br>> > On 6/5/09, Walubengo J <<a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> -Dear Listers,<br>> >><br>> >> I must thank all for your
insights over the last few days. I like the<br>> >> challenge that asked whether we are "over-regulating" an emerging market<br>> as<br>> >> the "answer" to the question on if we have legal and regulatory gaps.<br>> >> Listers are encouraged to challenge and not just answer the questions.<br>> Other<br>> >> arising issues included where we want to play within the BPO Value Chain,<br>> >> the Impact of the Political (in-)stability, the need to map our Data<br>> >> Protection laws to those in the target markets are just but some of the<br>> >> highlights I picked - and by all means this is NOT exhaustive as am still<br>> >> reading through the contributions.<br>> >><br>> >> But today we need to open the theme on Government subsidies. The<br>> >> Researchers found the S.Africa and India had elaborate subsidy provisions<br>> >> for the
sector that included Tax Holidays and Exemptions, Investment<br>> Grants<br>> >> to BPO operators, Training Subsidies, One-stop shop for Corporate Company<br>> >> Registrations that could be 100% foreign owned, etc. The Researchers<br>> noted<br>> >> the unique Mauritius case which had similar incentives but eventually<br>> >> abolished most of them arguing that they were more beneficial to the<br>> >> Operators than to the Nation.<br>> >><br>> >> On the Kenyan front - other than the not so succesfull Govt Bandwidth<br>> >> subsidies for Operators, very little in terms of incentives was available<br>> to<br>> >> BPO Operators. It was noted that the BPO operators had to be within the<br>> EPZ<br>> >> in order to enjoy the subsidies other EPZ corporates operates - the<br>> problem<br>> >> being that most BPO operaters exist outside the EPZ
area. Whats more, BPO<br>> >> operators had to pay additional charges to be registered by the CCK<br>> >> (Regulator) and should be at least 20% locally owned.<br>> >><br>> >> Qtn6: What incentives / subsidies should the government provide to BPO<br>> >> operators? What of the clause requiring 20% Local shareholding in<br>> foreign<br>> >> companies - is it prohibitive or helpful?<br>> >><br>> >> Floor is open comments.<br>> >><br>> >> walu.<br>> >> Encl: Synthesis 2:- Subsidies and Incentives<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> kictanet mailing list<br>> >> <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><span>> >> <a target="_blank"
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