<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Victor i disagree with your position. Security is a very complicated area and requires a multistakeholder approach, there has to be a clearly defined system made up of state and non state actors. The much Dr Ndemo Ndemo can do is to Facilitate, in any case his work is to implement policies (I may be wrong). We have very skilled personell in and out of governmnet, what is failing us is our inability to tap into their knowledge. We can only do this through institutions<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Victor Gathara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v-gathara@dfid.gov.uk" target="_blank">v-gathara@dfid.gov.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Imoh, Ministry of Info and Comms should take the lead in legislation<br>
affecting the ICT sector and have an overall management role in it. I<br>
think some sort of IT security czar is required (or already exists) and<br>
may rightly sit in the CCK. The ministry should up its communication<br>
strategy even now to alert all on where we are regarding ICT security.<br>
All seems unclear because we (or maybe I) am unaware of what<br>
laws/structures are in place in government to address this issue.<br>
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Over to you Dr Ndemo!<br>
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Victor<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] IG Discussion 2009,Day 10 of 10 - ePayment<br>
Systems and Regulation<br>
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Thanx Mwende for your 4day moderation on Security issues. Ofcourse more<br>
credit to the contributors whose insights am sure are being digested by<br>
stakeholders...feel free to make belated contributions.<br>
<br>
Today I want to introduce the second last theme before Mwende takes us<br>
through the Closure and Way forward on Monday 11th May 2009. Basically,<br>
we want to review the various "hybrid" electronic payments systems and<br>
their corresponding legal and regulatory frameworks.<br>
<br>
Hybrid electronic payment system exclude the traditional banking systmes<br>
which do have time-tested and proven legal/ regulatory frameworks.<br>
Typically they refer to emerging e-Payment systems that have been best<br>
exemplified by the MPESA/Zap phenomena. Such systems cut accross<br>
multiple industries (Banking, Telecommunication and IT) and present a<br>
huge challenge in terms of regulation/legislation.<br>
<br>
In developed economies, such systems have multiple<br>
legislation/regulation that demands that the entities involved in such<br>
ePayment services abide by strict Data Protection Acts which protect the<br>
customer data/privacy as well as other eLegislation (eCrime,<br>
eTransaction) that provides deterrence and assurance mechanism.<br>
<br>
In layman terms, consider an MPESA/ZAP User who sends value of 30,000Ksh<br>
from their mobile phone account to the parents upcountry when the<br>
following happens:<br>
1. Disaster strikes and the electronic records are lost (whose<br>
liable?-it happened in 9/11, Tsunami, etc) 2. The Parents claim that<br>
they didnt recieve the money or worse still the sender claim they never<br>
send the money (non-repudiation issues) 3. An eCrime suspect is charged<br>
with altering ePayments records at the source (inside job/judicial<br>
issues)<br>
<br>
In general, do we have frameworks to protect consumers and businesses<br>
against such risks above and do we have investigative and judicial<br>
capacity to administer e-Crime related justice? What role should the<br>
Regulator (CCK), Banking (CBK), Police and Judiciary (NOT) have in these<br>
frameworks?<br>
<br>
Lets try and give views within today (1day)...<br>
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walu.<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br>Barrack O. Otieno<br>ISSEN CONSULTING<br>Tel:<br>+254721325277<br>+254733206359<br><a href="http://projectdiscovery.or.ke" target="_blank">http://projectdiscovery.or.ke</a><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Barrack O. Otieno<br>ISSEN CONSULTING<br>Tel:<br>+254721325277<br>+254733206359<br><a href="http://projectdiscovery.or.ke">http://projectdiscovery.or.ke</a><br>To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones responsibility as a free man.<br>
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