Wainaina<br><br>Send me the local spam and offline message and know that I dont ever acts on threats but on a mutual agreement that we are all equal<br><br>regards<br>Robert<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/18/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Wainaina Mungai</b> <<a href="mailto:wainaina@madeinkenya.org">wainaina@madeinkenya.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maina et. al.<br> <br> I think the issue of "local spam" & forced subscriptions to lists<br> actually started with Alex. Another person raised it...and then Aki<br> got a mischevious offline message...so did i.<br>
<br> Ignoring the facts above is allowing us to distort the issue here. I<br> was asked to complain directly to the list owner; something I have<br> done numerous times. Now that the list owner is the sender of offline<br>
messages, i'd appreciate a conclusion on the issue of LOCAL SPAM.<br> <br> ;-) calmly,<br> <br>Wainaina<br> <br><br> On 11/18/08, John Maina <<a href="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com">j.maina@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>> Wainaina<br> ><br> > I think that now you are not making sense.<br> ><br> > You dont seem to have any facts for opposing Robert but just want to look<br> > like a molested child.<br> ><br> > Lets take criticism kindly and honestly. Cheap and misconceived and arrogant<br>
> reply will just result into fghts which nobody would love in the forum<br> ><br> > When someone comes to these fora and he/she is new, you will get people<br> > trying to out do each other on how they are the experts, but let me tell you<br>
> that expertise in a profession is never meassured in how many papers you<br> > have, its what you have achieved with your papers and recognition.<br> ><br> > However much we would like to say Robert is bad, I am in his list but<br>
> running 12,000 people with more than 500 daily emailss is hard whatever way<br> > you look at it<br> ><br> > JM<br> ><br> > --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Wainaina Mungai <<a href="mailto:wainaina@madeinkenya.org">wainaina@madeinkenya.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> From: Wainaina Mungai <<a href="mailto:wainaina@madeinkenya.org">wainaina@madeinkenya.org</a>><br> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br> > To: <a href="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com">j.maina@ymail.com</a><br>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br> > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:44 PM<br> ><br> > Not to worry Aki,<br>
><br> > I've received similar ones ;-)<br> ><br> > On a serious ettiquette note, should people be be free to send threats<br> > and insults off-line to people who disagree with their views on the<br> > list?...yet remain on the list?<br>
><br> > I hope this time I won't receive a scary offline message ;-)<br> ><br> > Wainaina<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On 11/18/08, aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Well, well, well. Do I sense a cyber " warning " here ? Robert,<br> > clearly<br> >> something is amiss....<br> >><br> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> >> From: Robert Alai <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM<br> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br> >> To: aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>><br> >><br> >><br>
>> Aki<br> >><br> >> who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even<br> >> know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local<br> >> content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you<br>
>> because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the<br> >> fake cocoon.<br> >><br> >> I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in<br> > my<br>
>> league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF<br> >><br> >> Alai<br> >><br> >> On 11/18/08, aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br> >>> My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging<br> > site.<br> >>> Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore<br> > unable<br> >>> to<br>
>>> match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words<br> > for<br> >>> the<br> >>> sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and<br> > phobia<br> >>> of<br>
>>> local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics,<br> >>> leaders<br> >>> and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated<br> > and<br> >>> the best effort so far according to you for local content is a<br>
> website<br> >>> that<br> >>> I'd never visit or waste any time on.<br> >>><br> >>> So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned :<br> > Define<br> >>> local content and we will start to get somewhere.<br>
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