Aki,<br><br>Its good to give people the respect!As much you know what you know and Robert knows what he does,involving other people in your conversation is not fair!Calling people idiots is lack of respect to peoples opinion!Those who have joined Robert's sites knew what they were doing!<br>
<br>Please respect people! <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/18 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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1. Tandaa - An Honest Analysis (Robert Alai)<br>
2. Re: Tandaa - An Honest Analysis (aki)<br>
3. CS speakers for IGF opening and closing sessions] (alice)<br>
4. Re: Tandaa - An Honest Analysis (Joseph Manthi)<br>
5. Re: Tandaa - An Honest Analysis (James Kagwe)<br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:37:14 +0300<br>
From: "Robert Alai" <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br>
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AKI<br>
<br>
As I forgot to copy all<br>
<br>
Please keep off my sites. the mail you are talking about is down there<br>
<br>
Alai<br>
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From: Robert Alai <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Nov 18, 2008 3:46 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br>
To: aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>><br>
<br>
Aki<br>
<br>
who are you? what are your achievement and knowledge on ICT? You dont even<br>
know anything you are talking about. I will never have a phobia for local<br>
content. I love it and would fight for it. But I can never argue with you<br>
because first, you are ashamed of yourself that you wont come out of the<br>
fake cocoon.<br>
<br>
I deal with real people and real issues and until then, you dont play in my<br>
league and you are not invited to any of my sites. KEEP OFF<br>
<br>
Alai<br>
<br>
On 11/18/08, aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> My last thoughts on this before it becomes more like a blogging site.<br>
> Robert, you are still unable to define local content and therefore unable to<br>
> match any criticism or critic. Mixing small words with bigger words for the<br>
> sake of it is the usual illusion. I think the severe arrogance and phobia of<br>
> local everything ( of course with the usual spices such as politics, leaders<br>
> and events, esle the traffic to sites would not exist ) is over-rated and<br>
> the best effort so far according to you for local content is a website that<br>
> I'd never visit or waste any time on.<br>
><br>
> So simply moving forward, and as Josiah and the others mentioned : Define<br>
> local content and we will start to get somewhere.<br>
><br>
> Get to the point.<br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:28 +0300<br>
From: aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br>
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Robert, am not part of those 12,000 idiots who may have signed up to your<br>
sites or nor do i need to live on handouts from http hits or smtp<br>
traffic. But one important issue that you have brought up is that internet<br>
governance is important and that future legislation should protect the end<br>
users from rogue sites and owners. If you are to be a typical example of how<br>
content is developed and distributed then something will need to be<br>
done.....and thus I rest my case for the local content issues.<br>
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Aki.<br>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Robert Alai <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> AKI<br>
><br>
> As I forgot to copy all<br>
><br>
> Please keep off my sites. the mail you are talking about is down there<br>
><br>
> Alai<br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:01:17 +0300<br>
From: alice <<a href="mailto:alice@apc.org">alice@apc.org</a>><br>
Subject: [kictanet] CS speakers for IGF opening and closing sessions]<br>
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Dear all<br>
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For all those from civil society planning to attend the India IGF in<br>
December.<br>
<br>
best<br>
alice<br>
<br>
>From: Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette@wzb.eu><br>
>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>
>Subject: [governance] CS speakers for IGF opening and closing sessions<br>
><br>
>Hello,<br>
><br>
>the good news is that civil society has speaking positions to fill<br>
>for Hyderabad, two for the opening session, one for the closing<br>
>session. The bad news is that we have only one week to send a list<br>
>of names to the secretariat.<br>
><br>
>The secretariat would welcome a list with more than three names to<br>
>have some flexibility for regional balancing.<br>
>Considering the context, we need accomplished speakers with standing<br>
>in civil society.<br>
>Gender balance is taken seriously, names of female speakers are<br>
>particularly welcome!<br>
><br>
>I have been told that the two speakers from the private sector are<br>
>both from India. So, we may propose additional speakers from India<br>
>but in terms of regional balance, suggestions for speakers from<br>
>Africa and Latin America may be more successful.<br>
><br>
>Everyone is encouraged to distribute this call for speakers. And, of<br>
>course, everyone is free to send suggestions for speakers to the<br>
>secretariat directly. However, for practical reasons I would suggest<br>
>that the IGC mailing list assumes a coordinating role and aims to<br>
>put together a list of names that enjoys support from its members<br>
>and other groups.<br>
><br>
>The secretariat wishes to hear from us until Nov. 26. Can we manage this?<br>
><br>
>Jeanette<br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:02:16 -0600<br>
From: "Joseph Manthi" <<a href="mailto:jmanthi@gmail.com">jmanthi@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br>
To: aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>><br>
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Ok<br>
Both of you cut it. Robert stop calling people names and Aki, you should<br>
know better<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
<br>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Robert, am not part of those 12,000 idiots who may have signed up to your<br>
> sites or nor do i need to live on handouts from http hits or smtp<br>
> traffic. But one important issue that you have brought up is that internet<br>
> governance is important and that future legislation should protect the end<br>
> users from rogue sites and owners. If you are to be a typical example of how<br>
> content is developed and distributed then something will need to be<br>
> done.....and thus I rest my case for the local content issues.<br>
><br>
> Aki.<br>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Robert Alai <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> AKI<br>
>><br>
>> As I forgot to copy all<br>
>><br>
>> Please keep off my sites. the mail you are talking about is down there<br>
>><br>
>> Alai<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:47:35 +0300<br>
From: "James Kagwe" <<a href="mailto:jkagwe@KIPPRA.OR.KE">jkagwe@KIPPRA.OR.KE</a>><br>
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Just wondering where the moderator is.... The treatment we have received<br>
today is ridiculous to say the least. Something needs to be done and<br>
urgently (before yesterday). I'm a member of the said list and probably<br>
not very happy having to deal with hundreds of mails everyday (I must<br>
confess I delete almost all), but calling me an idiot is not fair,<br>
considering I ignorantly joined it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Have a good night and kill this thing starting now.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Kagwe<br>
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________________________________<br>
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From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=<a href="http://kippra.or.ke" target="_blank">kippra.or.ke</a>@<a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:02 PM<br>
To: James Kagwe<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ok<br>
<br>
Both of you cut it. Robert stop calling people names and Aki, you should<br>
know better<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
<br>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, aki <<a href="mailto:aki275@googlemail.com">aki275@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Robert, am not part of those 12,000 idiots who may have signed up to<br>
your sites or nor do i need to live on handouts from http hits or smtp<br>
traffic. But one important issue that you have brought up is that<br>
internet governance is important and that future legislation should<br>
protect the end users from rogue sites and owners. If you are to be a<br>
typical example of how content is developed and distributed then<br>
something will need to be done.....and thus I rest my case for the local<br>
content issues.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Aki.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Robert Alai <<a href="mailto:alai.robert@gmail.com">alai.robert@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
AKI<br>
<br>
As I forgot to copy all<br>
<br>
Please keep off my sites. the mail you are talking about is down there<br>
<br>
Alai<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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