<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Edith<br><br>One of the lessons is not locking outt locals. Its infact involving the locals like nobody has ever imagine<br><br>JM<br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: "eadera@idrc.or.ke" <eadera@idrc.or.ke><br>To: j.maina@ymail.com; eadera@idrc.or.ke<br>Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:55:30 AM<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested Interests<br><br>
Anyone has taken the time to thoroughly study the secret behind<br>Dubai's tremendous growth? (U.A.E in general). There are some useful<br>lessons!<br><br><br><br>><br>><br>><br>>---- Original Message ----<br>>From: <a ymailto="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com" href="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com">j.maina@ymail.com</a><br>>To: <a ymailto="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke" href="mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke">eadera@idrc.or.ke</a><br>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested<br>>Interests<br>>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:03:50 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>>Lizette<br>>><br>>>I think that you have racially inclined your mind.<br>>><br>>>When did KENCALL directors become Kenyans? After getting good<br>>friends to bribe their way to this country. And let me tell you that<br>>the money the so called investors are using are Kenyan money not<br>>money from foreign banks.<br>>><br>>>They
have come and borrowed from Kenyan banks. How much does the<br>>most profitable telecomms companies leave in this country, very small<br>>amount. We have Telecomms companies which are on their marks. They<br>>have very inferior systems and dont actually deliver in service but<br>>make billions and run away with the billions.<br>>><br>>>Dada Lizette, we know that there are Kenyans who are white, black<br>>coloured and all but know that I am a mixed race Kenyan and really<br>>sad when our brotehrs have to suffer because of bad policies from<br>>people like PS<br>>><br>>>JM<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>----- Original Message ----<br>>>From: Lizette Kraft <<a ymailto="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com" href="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com">lfkraft@gmail.com</a>><br>>>To: <a ymailto="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com" href="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com">j.maina@ymail.com</a><br>>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:52:07 PM<br>>>Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested<br>>Interests<br>>><br>>><br>>>Just my two pennies worth here.<br>>> <br>>>Kenya is not an Island that it can survive on its own even through<br>>local investment. Most times we dont have the funds. I do agree<br>>though about the Government and banks not supporting local investors<br>>with loans etc. They must start giving them the opportunity to setup<br>>local expertise and turn them in money making ventures, if only they<br>>wouldn't fleece their own companies. Even America, the giant needs<br>>investors!!! You all have a valid point but use it for the best<br>>interests of Kenya and its people first and
foremost. Not just self<br>>interest for the few. And by the way Kenyans come in all shapes,<br>>sizes, COLOURS, and creed. So please don't generalise who is kenyan<br>>and who is not!!! Kencall directors and owners are Kenyan and not<br>>outsiders if I understand correctly. When we are taxed whether<br>>individually or coorporately, the money is used for Kenya and Kenyans<br>>and not for outsiders who invested! Forcing local partnership in<br>>foreign owned companies has<br>>> its negative and positive effects. <br>>>This needs to be look at more seriously to make it a win-win<br>>situation. It has been known in the past that foreign investors with<br>>forced local partnership have been subjected to threats and<br>>intimidation by the local partners when they wanted more than their<br>>fare share, (given to them mind you). Thus the weariness o<br>>>of being forced now. This does not
attract any investor. But the<br>>foreigners should not fleece the country either!<br>>> <br>>>Let us have some constructive critisism without being racially<br>>inclined. Fight to make things right no matter what but without<br>>pinpointing nationalities or colours of people.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>>On 10/7/08, John Maina <<a ymailto="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com" href="mailto:j.maina@ymail.com">j.maina@ymail.com</a>> wrote: <br>>><a href="http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=3150#poest3150" target="_blank">http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=3150#poest3150</a><br>>> <br>>>_______________________________________________<br>>>kictanet mailing list<br>>><a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>>><a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>>><br>>>This message was sent to: <a ymailto="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com" href="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com">lfkraft@gmail.com</a><br>>>Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lfkraft%40gmail" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lfkraft%40gmail</a>.<br>>com<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>-- <br>>>Lizette Kraft<br>>>P.O. Box 18488, 00500<br>>>Nairobi, Kenya<br>>>Cell: 0722-800362 <br>>><br>>><br>>> <br><br><br></div></div></div><br>
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