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<p>Thanks for your kind words Kamotho. When we move together with one voice we shall reach there. I will communicate with you one I am back in the country on these issues.</p><p>Kind Regards,<br />Waudo</p><p> </p><pre>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:02:28 +0300, "kamotho Njenga" <kamothonjenga@gmail.com> said:
</pre><blockquote class="QuoteMessage" type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman""><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"></span></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Quite remarkable efforts, Waudo. The</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman""><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> w</span>ork sets up an appropriate pedestal for further contributions that will enable academicians, regulators, managers, employers <a href="http://et.al/">et.al</a>, to better appreciate the ICT professional paradigms.<br /><br />The draft forms a critical first step towards our dream of defining the ICT profession in Kenya. It's a sacred endeavor which should be entirely isolated from all traces of the emerging Kenyan version of "ICT politics" (Exclusion and sabotage of perceived critics).<br /><br />If we collaboratively manage to generate an amicable framework that will yield a streamlined and mainstreamed professional sector, we will have made a solid foundation for the future growth of our ICT industry.<br /><br />May the ICT Practitioners Management Act live to see the light of day!<br /><br />Kamotho Njenga<br /><br /></span><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM, waudo siganga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I am just wondering how much "Work" it would take to formulate a<br />legislative instrument to regualte ICT qualifications and profession. I<br />notice most of the other instruments appear similar except for a few<br />changes here and there. I have taken one and put a few changes to create<br />an "ICT Practioners Management Act" -<br /><a href="http://www.cskonline.org/downloads/Proposed_ICT_Practioners_Act.pdf" target="_blank">www.cskonline.org/downloads/Proposed_ICT_Practioners_Act.pdf</a><br /><br />Waudo<br /><br />On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:56:20 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo"<br /><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> said:<br />> Waudo,<br />><br />> I beg to differ (disclosure: probably because I sit on the KASNEB ICT<br />> Syllabus Board) on two accounts.<br />><br />> 1. That the KASNEB ICT syllabus is for Accountants and<br />> 2. That KICT Board should have nothing to do with KASNEB.<br />><br />> Count 1: Syllabi for Accountants?<br />> The KASNEB ICT syllabus is aimed to create mid-level, technical personnel<br />> in the ICT sector. Any doubting expert can visit<br />> <a href="http://www.kasneb.or.ke/cict.htm" target="_blank">http://www.kasneb.or.ke/cict.htm</a> to see the course outline which<br />> incidentally you (Waudo and I) contributed to in 2005. In addition, this<br />> syallabus is already under review by another Task force to make it more<br />> relevant (tell me which university/college here in Kenya reviews their<br />> syllabus in such turn-around record times?)<br />><br />> Count 2: ICT board has/should have nothing to do with KASNEB?<br />> I think ICT board has an interest in the ICT technical capacity in this<br />> country. It would be futile to market Kenya as an ICT destination, when<br />> one knows the gaps or inadequacy we have particularly at the levels that<br />> our Polytechnics (now all rushing to be universities) used to address.<br />><br />> Finally, KASNEB has an Accounting background but is moving into providing<br />> their Examination Expertise into other areas (ICT, Actural Science, etc)<br />> and you are right:-They have a legal mandate and parliamentary basis for<br />> this. Something the Computer Soceity of Kenya, ITSA and other ICT<br />> professional bodies have sought to no avail.<br />><br />> Probably Waudo, could your worry be that KASNEB maybe introducing<br />> 'unnecessary' competition in that space?<br />><br />> walu.<br />><br />><br />><br />> --- On Fri, 9/5/08, waudo siganga <<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br />><br />> > From: waudo siganga <<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>><br />> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Review, identify gaps and enhance the quality of the Certificate of ICT (CICT) qualification<br />> > To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br />> > Cc: <a href="mailto:amosoba@ict.go.ke">amosoba@ict.go.ke</a>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br />> > Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:53 PM<br />> > Why is partnering with KASNEB a "Strategic<br />> > Objective' of the ICT<br />> > Board? Does it mean that the Board sees the running of ICT<br />> > examinations and, presumably, professionalism as a<br />> > responsibility<br />> > of accountants? To me the strategic objective should be to<br />> > ensure<br />> > ICT education and professionalism are established under<br />> > statutory<br />> > recognition in their own right. The only advantage<br />> > accountants<br />> > have is the statutory recognition and if we plan properly<br />> > we will<br />> > reach there. I do not want to derail this new partnership<br />> > but I<br />> > hope it is short term.<br />> ><br />> > BTW KASNEB does not have the technical capacity to make any<br />> > ICT<br />> > Syllabus. They had to call in a team of ICT experts,<br />> > including<br />> > me, to write the CICT syllabus for them. The syllabus we<br />> > made out<br />> > is geared for accountants.<br />> ><br />> > Kind Regards,<br />> > Waudo<br />> ><br />> ><br />> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:47:20 +0300, "Al Kags"<br />> > <<a href="mailto:alkags@alkags.com">alkags@alkags.com</a>> said:<br />> ><br />> > The Kenya ICT Board and KASNEB have formed a partnership<br />> > to<br />> > review, identify gaps and enhance the quality of the<br />> > Certificate of ICT (CICT) qualification that is managed<br />> > by<br />> > KASNEB and offered by various ICT institutions in Kenya.<br />> > This<br />> > collaboration will cover, among other areas:-<br />> > * Working together towards enhancing quality ICT skills<br />> > in the<br />> > country<br />> > * Marketing CICT to get industry buy in and endorsement<br />> > at the<br />> > same level as CPA.<br />> > * Collaborate in conducting a baseline study/survey to<br />> > determine the deficiency of ICT skills and type of<br />> > skills<br />> > required.<br />> > * Collaborate to lobby for appropriate legal provisions<br />> > for the<br />> > establishment of an Institute for the CICT graduates,<br />> > recognizing KASNEB as the examining and the<br />> > certification<br />> > body for ICT graduates.<br />> > * Work to gain industry acceptance of CICT certification<br />> > on<br />> > same quality rating as CPA.<br />> ><br />> > The Kenya ICT Board wishes to convene an ICT Public Panel<br />> > to<br />> > develop industry and stake holder input into the review.<br />> > We<br />> > invite the participation of key sector players in the<br />> > industry<br />> > on a voluntary basis, as represented below:-<br />> > * Industry players (IT products and services<br />> > suppliers/manufactures including Developer Community,<br />> > Skunkworks etc) - 5 representatives<br />> > * Business Process Outsourcing and Call Centres - 2<br />> > representatives<br />> > * Colleges representatives - 3 representatives<br />> > * University representatives - 3 representatives<br />> > * Student representatives – 5<br />> > * Related government ministry's representatives - 3<br />> > * Multinational Corporations - 2<br />> ><br />> > TORs of the Panel.<br />> > To review the state of ICT skills in Kenya with a view to<br />> > identifying gaps and therefore make recommendations for<br />> > addressing those gaps as seen in a global context. The<br />> > Public<br />> > Panel deliberations will be made out of a maximum of<br />> > three<br />> > meetings at the Kenya ICT Board Offices on Waiyaki way<br />> > specifically on: -<br />> > * Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at 10 am<br />> > * Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10 am<br />> > * Tuesday, September 23, 2008 at 10 am<br />> ><br />> > The recommendations will be presented to KASNEB for the<br />> > review<br />> > of the Certification Curriculum, on September 26, 2008 at<br />> > a<br />> > venue to be communicated closer to the date.<br />> > This initiative is guided by the Kenya ICT Board's<br />> > Strategic<br />> > Objectives, mainly:<br />> > * To develop and promote competitive ICT Institutions in<br />> > Kenya<br />> > * To develop and promote competitive ICT industries in<br />> > Kenya<br />> ><br />> > TO PARTICIPATE<br />> > To participate, kindly contact the Public Panels team on<br />> > [1]<a href="mailto:publicpanels@ict.go.ke">publicpanels@ict.go.ke</a> . Please attach a brief profile<br />> > of<br />> > yourself and the sector that you represent. The Board<br />> > will<br />> > then formally invite you to participate in the Panel.<br />> > While<br />> > the formal invitations will be issued entirely at the<br />> > discretion of the board, the broad criteria for<br />> > participation<br />> > is as follows:-<br />> > * Demonstrated experience and knowledge in the sub-sector<br />> > * Expressed willingness to serve pro bono<br />> > * Demonstrated general understanding of the educational<br />> > offering in the sector.<br />> ><br />> > We also welcome via email to [2]<a href="mailto:publicpanels@ict.go.ke">publicpanels@ict.go.ke</a><br />> > written<br />> > submission on this topic, representations and opinions<br />> > from<br />> > the sector towards this important exercise and they will<br />> > also<br />> > be collated with the report.<br />> ><br />> > References<br />> ><br />> > 1. mailto:<a href="mailto:publicpanels@ict.go.ke">publicpanels@ict.go.ke</a><br />> > 2. mailto:<a href="mailto:publicpanels@ict.go.ke">publicpanels@ict.go.ke</a><br />> > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people<br />> > work (Confucius).<br />> ><br />> > _______________________________________________<br />> > kictanet mailing list<br />> > <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br />> > <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br />> ><br />> > This message was sent to: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br />> > Unsubscribe or change your options at<br />> > <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com</a><br />><br />><br />><br />People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).<br /><br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />kictanet mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br /><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br /><br />This message was sent to: <a href="mailto:kamothonjenga@gmail.com">kamothonjenga@gmail.com</a><br />Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kamothonjenga@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kamothonjenga%40gmail.com</a><br /></blockquote></div><br /></div></blockquote>
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