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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Who should be responsible:  I (still) suggest a regulator,
supported by requisite legislation. Trust, Confidence need to be created for
e-comm to thrive. I do not think developing countries can afford to move in a
direction different from the rest of the world – one – because they do not make
up a substantial market of their own  and – two – they greatly depend on the
first world. As has been said in the past, for e-commerce to thrive, there is
need for trusted systems to exist, starting from CAs all the way to Governance
structures supported by legislation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How about politics? All economies need to have (strong
democratic) political structures in place. Economics in the third world is
dependent on politics, so having national legislation that may not be respected
by governments may not make it any easier. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sylvester<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
kictanet-bounces+skisonzo=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+skisonzo=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>mwende njiraini<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 August 2008 11:27<br>
<b>To:</b> skisonzo@gmail.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Day 7 of 10:-IGF Discussion, Economic Issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I agree, there is definitely a link
between economics and interconnection.  For example, mobile operators have
networks spanning across East and Southern Africa enabling users to communicate
without incurring roaming charges thus encouraging commercial activity.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Interconnection of telecommunication
networks is supported by ongoing efforts to harmonize regulatory requirements
in the region.  This is a great accomplishment considering that Europe has over
a long time battled with the introduction of roaming regulation.  Though there
are distinct differences between mobile and the internet interconnection, what
is the limitation in providing connectivity been IXPs existing in the COMESA,
EAC and SADC trading blocks?  </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>References:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;
margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1.</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt'>      </span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The roaming regulation Available at:
<a
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/regulation/index_en.htm">http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/regulation/index_en.htm</a>
[Accessed August 2008]</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Disclaimer: These comments are the
author's own</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 8/19/08, <b>Michuki Mwangi</b>
<<a href="mailto:michuki@swiftkenya.com">michuki@swiftkenya.com</a>>
wrote:</span> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<br>
<br>
Well just to add on to this debate. We have various trading blocks - EAC,
COMESA etc. I dont have the data on how much we trade against each of this
blocks - but i would imagine that the level of trade carried out between the
regions is almost equal to the amount of communications that  is conducted
amongst the trading parties. If thats the case, what role should Governments,
regulators etc play in ensuring that communications between the various trading
blocks is efficient and cost effective i.e almost as the cost of local
services. IMHO this would go a long way in reducing the amount of dependence on
international connectivity for regional traffic. - This may as well be a point
to review on the interconnection issue - but i sort of see the relationship
between the economics and interconnection.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Michuki.<br>
<br>
mwende njiraini wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=e>Morning!!</span><br>
<br>
<span class=e>Thank you all for your contribution to various aspects of
internet</span><br>
<span class=e>governance.  Today we start our discussions on economic
issues.  The</span><br>
<span class=e>internet is increasingly playing a critical role in economic
development</span><br>
<span class=e>specifically in facilitating international trade.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span class=e>The economic issues therefore basically relate to the framework
that makes</span><br>
<span class=e>e-commerce possible. The participation of developing countries in
e-commerce</span><br>
<span class=e>is limited by the lack the appropriate legislation,
authentication</span><br>
<span class=e>technologies and electronic payment methods.  The main
limitation however is</span><br>
<span class=e>the lack of appropriate legislation that is essential in the
protection of</span><br>
<span class=e>consumers in relation to confidentiality, misleading advertising
and</span><br>
<span class=e>delivery of faulty products.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class=e>In your view, who should be responsible for protection of the
consumer in</span><br>
<span class=e>light of the fact that the national legislation may be faced with
the</span><br>
<span class=e>limitation of jurisdiction?  Given that mobile services are
available to the</span><br>
<span class=e>majority, should developing countries concentrate their efforts
in enabling</span><br>
<span class=e>m-commerce to overcome the challenges of e-commerce?  What
private sector</span><br>
<span class=e>initiatives are there in e-commerce particularly in e-Payments?</span><br>
<br>
<span class=e>Looking forward to hearing from you.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=e>Kind regards</span><br>
<span class=e>Mwende</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span class=e>Disclaimer: These comments are the author's own</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

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