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<body class='hmmessage'><div style="text-align: left;"><br></div><br>So are you saying that the ICT board has been "quietly" marketing Kenya
and for this we should not ask too many questions we must give them
space to work "quietly"? <br>
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It is a public institution and has to be
transparent and accountable. If the performamnce so far has been poor, we need to know why.<br>
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regards<br>
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Jane<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:19:53 +0300<br>> From: alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com<br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT/BPO Marketing Strategy<br>> CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> To: wambui@live.co.uk<br>> <br>> Let us also be realistic in our expectations of solutions -in toto-<br>> from the Board. I am aware of powerfully transforming initiatives they<br>> are implementing quietly because sometimes, "whatever is good must be<br>> done well and quietly." The ICT Board is so important to all Kenya!<br>> <br>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo@ict.go.ke> wrote:<br>> > Dear colleagues,<br>> ><br>> > I assure everyone that we have taken notice of your views. We recognise the<br>> > need to communicate more widely and to this effect, I have asked our Head of<br>> > Communication to adopt this mailing list as a formal medium to regularly<br>> > relay the board's programs with immediate effect.<br>> ><br>> > On the specific issues raised here, our Head of Communication will relay an<br>> > appropriate response as soon as we have completed our review of the issues<br>> > raised.<br>> ><br>> > I propose that this include regular updates, on a formal basis, from the<br>> > specific sector bodies which the Board provides partial support to, as a way<br>> > of creating a complete picture.<br>> ><br>> > Kind regards<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> I think we need a "holding companies to account" intervention in the ICT<br>> >> industry or "score card" intervention. South Africa has successfully<br>> >> introduced it in local authorities, which is scored by the public.<br>> >><br>> >> This should apply across the board in the industry, not just to the ICT<br>> >> Board.<br>> >><br>> >> Maybe a quarterly newsletter or equivalent from the ICT Board would help<br>> >> keep everyone abreast of any achievements...or progress towards concrete<br>> >> achievements. It has been rather quiet<br>> >><br>> >> On the mandate issue, I think it needs to be reviewed if BPO is the only<br>> >> mandate...ICT4D is certainly much broader and other strategies to get<br>> >> broad-based development (including in rural areas) needs to be considered.<br>> >> I<br>> >> worry that we might be too "centre focussed" other than the Digital<br>> >> Villages, which are yet to be rolled out to rural and remote areas.<br>> >><br>> >> Edith<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf<br>> >> Of waudo siganga<br>> >> Sent: 08 August 2008 09:43<br>> >> To: eadera@idrc.or.ke<br>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT/BPO Marketing Strategy<br>> >><br>> >> Hi - I think that the ICT Board, being a public entity owes a duty of<br>> >> reply in cases where questions are directed at it - and that includes<br>> >> the one from Wambui. Why has the Board fallen into a "Do Not Resopond<br>> >> Syndrome"? There must be a communications person there or a PRO being<br>> >> paid from public funds and they should do their job! Can we have an<br>> >> official response to Wambui's concerns FROM THE ICT BOARD.<br>> >> Waudo<br>> >><br>> >> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:07:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo"<br>> >> <jwalu@yahoo.com> said:<br>> >> > Hey Wambui,<br>> >> ><br>> >> > No offense meant with regard to BPO. Its just that your concerns were<br>> >> > beginning to sound somewhat personal than generic. As Otuoma mentions<br>> >> > in<br>> >> > another mail, there seems to be things beyond the ICTBoard that could be<br>> >> > effected - e.g on Bandwidth susbsidies because of pending funds from<br>> >> > World Bank...<br>> >> ><br>> >> > walu.<br>> >> > NB: and by the way, this Richard guy if I could speak for him, is<br>> >> > actually still in the BPO industry, he simply diversified into<br>> >> > non-bandwidth intensive processes and in the interim focuses in<br>> >> > Backoffice rather than bandwidth intensive Call-center operations. He<br>> >> > does for example, data transcripting, research, training, etc).<br>> >> > Something<br>> >> > to keep you busy as you await bigger things.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:<br>> >> ><br>> >> > > From: Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk><br>> >> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT/BPO Marketing Strategy<br>> >> > > To: jwalu@yahoo.com<br>> >> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>> >> > > Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 7:10 PM<br>> >> > > Walu<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > BPO will not take me to heaven, but is a pillar of Vision<br>> >> > > 2030 and is an industry that can create thousands of new<br>> >> > > jobs in Kenya. i am surprised at your flippant attitude.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > If the ICT Board cannot deliver on this very important<br>> >> > > mandate, then Kenya risks losing out on an industry that can<br>> >> > > be a very large revenue generator for this country. Our<br>> >> > > competitors, like South Africa, Mauritius, India, Egypt, are<br>> >> > > working overtime to position themselves to the markets out<br>> >> > > there. If Kenya doesnt position itself at this time, we<br>> >> > > shall lose out.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Richard Mwangi's challenges (whichever they were) are<br>> >> > > besides the point. Kenya needs to put in much effort if this<br>> >> > > industry is to become a force to reckon with.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Wambui<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > --- On Thu, 7/8/08, John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com><br>> >> > > wrote:<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com><br>> >> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT/BPO Marketing Strategy<br>> >> > > To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk<br>> >> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"<br>> >> > > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>> >> > > Date: Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 2:38 PM<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Wambui,<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > ....without defending the ICTBoard (am trying to look for<br>> >> > > their ToRs before<br>> >> > > passing judgement), I can only observe that you seem to be<br>> >> > > single-minded and<br>> >> > > persistent on this BPO thing...<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > my general and non-ICT advice is that keep your eyes open -<br>> >> > > if BPO wont take<br>> >> > > you to heaven, am sure something else you maybe refusing to<br>> >> > > see will. God (or is<br>> >> > > it the ICTBoard?) may have shut the BPO door for you, but<br>> >> > > just look around and<br>> >> > > you will probably see many other opportunities.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Richard of richard@northwestoffshore.com, a BPO company who<br>> >> > > is on this list had<br>> >> > > similar challenges and he did manage to work around them.<br>> >> > > Reach him out in case<br>> >> > > he prefers to keep his silence on the list.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > walu.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > __________________________________________________________<br>> >> > > Not happy with your email address?.<br>> >> > > Get the one you really want - millions of new email<br>> >> > > addresses available now at Yahoo!<br>> >> > > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> > kictanet mailing list<br>> >> > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br>> >> ><br>> >> > This message was sent to: emailsignet@mailcan.com<br>> >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.c<br>> >> om<br>> >> People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work<br>> >> (Confucius).<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> kictanet mailing list<br>> >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br>> >><br>> >> This message was sent to: eadera@idrc.or.ke<br>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eadera%40idrc.or.ke<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> kictanet mailing list<br>> >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br>> >><br>> >> This message was sent to: pkukubo@ict.go.ke<br>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkukubo%40ict.go.ke<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > Paul Kukubo<br>> > Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board<br>> > PO Box 27150 - 00100<br>> > Nairobi, Kenya<br>> ><br>> > CCK Offices Waiyaki Way<br>> ><br>> > Tel direct: +254 20 2089062/251152<br>> > telkom Direct: +254 20 3518000<br>> > Fax: +254 20 315147<br>> > Cell: + 254 735 180001<br>> ><br>> > website: www.ict.go.ke<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > kictanet mailing list<br>> > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br>> ><br>> > This message was sent to: alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com<br>> > Unsubscribe or change your options at<br>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alexgakuru.lists%40gmail.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kictanet mailing list<br>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br>> <br>> This message was sent to: wambui@live.co.uk<br>> Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wambui%40live.co.uk<br><br /><hr />Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/' target='_new'>Try it Now!</a></body>
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