<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Bryan</div><div>Well said</div><div><br></div><div>New Vision is their way of saying that unless things go there way they <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373); ">shall scream and holler corruption all day long.</span></div><div><br></div><div>As in this case.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's use this case as an example - Shem thinks he should be the new DG not because he has the relevant experience but because he has a PhD in "imformatician"</div><div><br></div><div>From what you have indicated they seem to have made the right decision.</div><div><br></div><div>Joe </div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, "Brian Longwe" <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com">blongwe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Wow,<br><br>I think you guys are now just arguing for the sake of arguing.<br><br>Some facts to help clear the air.<br><br>1) Mr. Njoroge has been with CCK since it's inception<br>2) Mr. Njoroge has been working as second violin to all of the preceding DGs<br>
3) The position was advertised broadly in all the local dailies by a reputable International "Executive Appointments" firm<br>4) The said firm processed applications, came up with a short list, presented this to the CCK board<br>
5) CCK board interviewed all candidates<br>6) CCK Board conducted follow up interviews on all candidates who passed first interview<br>7) CCK Board independently selected the highest scoring candidate ... Mr. Njoroge<br>8) CCK Board forwarded their recommendation to the Minister/President<br>
9) A lot of politicians tried to "get their man in" - thus wasting a lot of time<br>10) The Minister/President did the wise thing and ratified the Board's recommendation<br>11) Mr. Njoroge was announced as the new DG<br>
<br>Is this the way things should be done? Yes!<br>Should we wish/hope for our Government to use a different approach? No!<br><br>So I'm happy and elated that we for the first time have a DG who has served in/with the regulator for over 8 years.<br>
<br>As Manthi has put it - let us see if he can deliver - I have a feeling he will.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Brian<br><br>ps - what is this New Vision list I see copied whenever Shem is mentioned?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Joseph Manthi <<a href="mailto:jmanthi@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jmanthi@gmail.com">jmanthi@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">See below<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Odhiambo Washington <<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com">odhiambo@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Joseph Manthi <<a href="mailto:jmanthi@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:jmanthi@gmail.com">jmanthi@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
> Washington:<br>
</div></div><div>> I am not being personal, everything I have stated here is either what Shem<br>
> has said himself and what is in public record. One thing about democracy is<br>
> that the person in power appoints his people. When that person is off power,<br>
> all his people are replace with those of the new "presidents" political<br>
> persuasion. I do not see what you guys are whining about.<br>
<br>
</div>In the US, the person in power appoints, and the appointee gets vetted<br>
by Congress,<br>
which has the rights to refuse such an appointment, yes? That is democracy.<br>
In Kenya, where noone can vet, do you still call it democracy?</blockquote><div><br>That is Parliament's problem not CCK or of this forum. If the parliament does not want to exercise its prerogative to change laws that allow it to oversee parastatals who are to complain if appointments are skewed to one side. The only other recourse you and I have is to make sure that we vote the right candidate in - that is Democracy. We have a new parliament lets hope they listen to you.<br>
<br>BTW: If you did not know it Dr Shem Ochuodho was an MP. Did he table a motion to give the parliament powers to oversee appointment of CCK DGs?<br><br>I do not know<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<br>
> Under the circumstances, the current leadership would have appointed a<br>
> village idiot to run CCK because according to them the idiot was qualified<br>
> and there would have been nothing wrong with that. You are listening way too<br>
> much to the WB/IFC to be of any good to the country. This guy has worked in<br>
> CCK - as someone else has stated. He probably knows more about deregulation<br>
> and ICT than 90% of the subscribers to this list - me and Shem included -<br>
> because deregulation is an economic concept. I expect him to lead the CCK<br>
> into the right direction.<br>
><br>
> Having some ICT knowledge does not make you a good Regulator Manager. The<br>
> problem with people complaining too much is that their audience stops<br>
> listening.<br>
><br>
> Give the guy a chance and stop whining about who should and who should not<br>
> have been appointed.<br>
<br>
</div>So according to you, the status quo is equally good?<br>
Then surely, I believe you are wrongly in this list, which seeks to<br>
establish changes by<br>
coming up with policies that can see this country move to the next level!</blockquote><div><br>You are reverting back to stone age arguments.<br><br>This is a political argument. I do not know the new guy, so neither do you. And therefore you do not know his capability. Give him a chance to prove himself. After all I am sure the full cabinet including the PM's office was in on the appointment. Did they raise hell because of his appointment? No. They obviously know something you or I do not.<br>
<br>Again - from studying places where Regulation and Deregulation has happening - you do not need an "informatician" - whatever that is - to run an ICT house or a regulator.<br><br>An example:<br>- Steve Ballmer can't write a single line of code<br>
- Ratan Tata probably does not know what an RJ45 cable is<br>- To name a few<br><br>These two guys are running some of the best run ICT companies in the world<br><br>Joe<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>
Nairobi,KE<br>
+254733744121/+254722743223<br>
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