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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why don’t we all meet at the
Jacaranda, land mark, Westlands at 5.00pm today. At the poolside. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Informal discussion. I will be waiting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><b><font size=1 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Kevit Desai<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>wesley kiriinya<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 July 2008 10:52<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Discipline
& Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulationfore-Commerce in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Gentlemen,<br>
<br>
Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would have
occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.)<br>
<br>
If there is a higher appointing authority that picks these so called
foreigners over Kenyans then it's them to blame (if there is a good reason).<br>
<br>
That said, as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion. Sorry to
say but it is embarrassing to read some of these posts.<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sun, 7/13/08, waudo siganga <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><emailsignet@mailcan.com></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: waudo siganga
<emailsignet@mailcan.com><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and
Regulation fore-Commerce in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<br>
Cc: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'kictanet-lists'</st1:PersonName>"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:19 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi All
- I am the one that asserted that Kenyan (ICT) associations should be run by
Kenyans and I stand by that. It has absolutely nothing to do with racism.
Every country has policies to protect its people. Even in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> you can
only stand for president if you were born American. Is that racism?
Associations are at the heart of pushing for policy and it pains me to see
foreigners jostling Kenyans out of the way and being the ones running
up and down the Government corridors carrying "position papers".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I find
it deplorable that Brian is using his position on the list to threaten to
unsubscribe those who do not agree with his views and consign them to the
Nyayo House dungeons. Brian you have been partisan on these issues
throughout. You are issuing "apologies" to people you already sided
with and they are quickly "accepting". At one time you were
saying we visit KIF to see how they run meetings as though suggesting Kenyans
do not know how to run meetings. Is this the Brian I knew or someone using
your mail account? Tafadhali, wacha wananchi wasema hata <st1:place w:st="on">kama</st1:place>
uko pande ile ingine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Waudo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:52:02 +0300, "kevit desai" <kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Dear Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Apologies accepted. And thank you Mr Chairman.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Wambui it is acceptable to challenge governance structures and
also wish to know more about associations. How else will we seek your support
with some off the very exciting things we are doing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>What deeply concerns me is the notion that associations should be
run by Kenyans. We all have to rise well above this, especially when we see
the success and contributions of some people. <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
’s grateful to have people like Mike Eldon, Steve Smith, Michael
Joseph, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marcel Werner</st1:PersonName> , and
others, they have contributed so much. Even to the peace process let alone
the advances in ICT’s. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Kictanet must stamp out any form of racist remarks. This is the
lowest of the lowest, and contributes to disengagement. Rules have to be put
in place.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Your leadership is a sigh of relief. And I look forward to you
uniting us all to a common vision of ICT’s for National development. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I am waiting….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:navy'>Kevit Desai</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brian Munyao Longwe<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 July 2008 09:50<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> kictanet-lists<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [kictanet] Discipline
& Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear
Marcel/Kevit/KIF,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I will
personally take this opportunity to apologize on behalf of KICTANET for the
ills which KIF has suffered in the recent dialogue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As Kevit (and
you) have clearly pointed out, KiF has welcomed anyone with questions to have
these answered in person while at the same time providing as many answers as
this media allows.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I know both
yourself and Kevit to be men of integrity and seriously dedicated to the
advancement of IcTs in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. I now humbly beg you to forgive the indiscretions by some of our members in
their misuse of this forum. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As Chairperson
of this Network I will not stand by and see this forum turned into the kind
of low and despicable rant-fests that have characterised certain other Kenyan
lists and blogs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I hereby request
a public apology to KIF on this list, from Alex, by Tuesday, failing which I
will suspend his (and any other member who persists in mudslinging) list
membership for one month.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I once again
humbly appeal to all members of this list to desist from the kind of myopic,
vindictive banter that we have recently witnessed. We must work *together*
for a better <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
, and this will not come through tomfoolery and irresponsible words/actions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sincerely<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Brian Munyao
Longwe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chairman,
KICTANET<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On 11 Jul 2008, at 10:44 PM, " <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marcel Werner</st1:PersonName>
" <<a href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcelcwerner@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hello Kictanet membership,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) is a reputable organization, duly
registered and maintaining a proper governance system with a registered,
paid-up membership base consisting of equally reputable ICT associations and
companies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>KIF has done a number of useful things over the period of its
existence (see Kevit's posting, earlier this week).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Recent postings on the Kictanet list appear to discredit our own
organization KIF and its members with insinuations and slander. This is
unacceptable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The Kictanet web-site shows KIF as a member of Kictanet (nr 8). We do
not wish to be associated with an organization that lends itself to unhelpful
campaigns by individuals, campaigns that can go on with impunity. There is no
need at all to damage our and other's initiatives that are being implemented
in the public interest (see again Kevit's posting) by informal networks with
doubtful legitimacy. Please note that KIF has never signed any membership
instrument with Kictanet, neither have we been charged nor have we paid for
any membership fees. (page 9 of the Kenya ICT Action Network Competence
Status Survey Assessment Report (posted on <a
href="http://www.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kictanet.or.ke/</a>)
highlights the membership problems of Kictanet. Personally I had highlighted
this membership problem already a year ago in the interview that Kictanet
held with us some time mid 2007 in the evaluation study of its role and
performance – I have to conclude today that membership management has
never been addressed at Kictanet). We instruct Kictanet to remove KIF from
its list of its appointed "Members".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We look forward to be part of a Kictanet that has a legitimate
constituency because there is need for a place of dialogue between civil
society and private sector. Kictanet is not playing such a role today at all
and creates a space for civil society to alienate itself from the private
sector. Kictanet needs to clean up its house.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We need serious dialogue, between all sectors in society, and we need
to reach out internationally. We don't have time for any nonsense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=default><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best regards, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marcel Werner</st1:PersonName>
, chairman of KIF :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2008/7/11 kevit
desai <<a href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Alex,<br>
Kenya ICT Federation is a serious and well established organization,<br>
supported by its members who are also reputable and well established<br>
organizations.<br>
I confirm Centurion systems does not receive any money from KIF. Please<br>
verify the Business advocacy funds contributions and conditions since your<br>
information is false.<br>
<br>
It is not right to publish insinuations affecting KIF and its membership on<br>
a forum like Kictanet. Especially, since I have extended an invitation to<br>
meet so that I can give further explanations. I am waiting to gauge the<br>
interest in this invitation.<br>
<br>
For now I close my participation.<br>
<br>
Kevit Desai<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Gakuru , Alex [mailto:<a href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com"
target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com"
target="_blank">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: 11 July 2008 17:24<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>To: kevit desai<br>
Cc: kictanet-lists<br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<br>
Kevit;<br>
<br>
KIF recently received Kshs 3.5 grant million from a certain business fund.<br>
I am curious centurion system hosts them under their CSR?<br>
<br>
Public forum to explain all dealings openly and transparently?.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
<br>
On 7/11/08, kevit desai <<a href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com"
target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com"
target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear Sylvester,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thank you for all the interest shown. Some of you would like further<br>
> information on the following activities:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Historical & present- Impact<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> - Ministerial stakeholder forum
(regular sectoral discussions<br>
> private sector - Government, with KEPSA)<br>
><br>
> - Power up with ICT nation - wide
awareness campaigns (2004,<br>
2005,<br>
> 2006)<br>
><br>
> - E-Government - municipal councils<br>
><br>
> - Open source software community<br>
><br>
> - E-commerce legislation<br>
><br>
> - Engineering student exhibition -
1997 - 2008<br>
><br>
> - ICT Bills (2006 - 2008)<br>
><br>
> - Creation of INFOCOM Ministry (2003)<br>
><br>
> - National ICT Policy formulation
(2004 - 2006)<br>
><br>
> - Tax reforms 2006, 2007, 2008<br>
><br>
> - National innovation system<br>
><br>
> - University Education Reforms Task
Force (2006 - current)<br>
><br>
> - PSDS<br>
><br>
> - Africon 2009<br>
><br>
> - Public panels with Kenya ICT Board<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Associations:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> - KEPSA<br>
><br>
> - KIF<br>
><br>
> - IEEE<br>
><br>
> - <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> software industry
association<br>
><br>
><br>
> Please confirm your interest in a meeting. This will allow me to gauge<br>
level<br>
> of participation so as to plan the venue and also mobilize the relevant<br>
> leaders. If you are not on board, it would be great to have you on
board.<br>
We<br>
> need your support<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Kevit Desai<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems<br>
><br>
> Chairperson IEEE - <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
Section<br>
><br>
> Chairman - Engineering students exhibition<br>
><br>
> Governor - KEPSA<br>
><br>
> Director - KEPSA<br>
><br>
> Director - Innovation <st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place><br>
><br>
> Director- Kenya ICT Board<br>
><br>
> Vice Chairman - <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
ICT Federation<br>
><br>
> BOA - AIESEC<br>
><br>
> Member - National Strategy for University Education<br>
><br>
> Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable Business(GSB)-UNDP Kenya<br>
><br>
> General Co-Chair - Africon 2009<br>
><br>
> 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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><br>
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href="http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank">http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com</a><br>
><br>
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href="http://www.ieee.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ieee.org</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/" target="_blank">http://www.innovation-africa.net</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.kepsa.or.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.kepsa.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kepsa.or.ke</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.powerup.co.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.powerup.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.powerup.co.ke</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.aiesec.org/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.aiesec.org/" target="_blank">http://www.aiesec.org</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.africon2007.co.za/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.africon2007.co.za/" target="_blank">http://www.africon2007.co.za</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.kif.or.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.kif.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kif.or.ke</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.ict.go.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.ict.go.ke/" target="_blank">www.ict.go.ke</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.globalcompact.org/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.globalcompact.org/" target="_blank">http://www.globalcompact.org</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.undp.org/business/gsb" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.undp.org/business/gsb" target="_blank">http://www.undp.org/business/gsb</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
><br>
><br>
> From:<br>
> kictanet-bounces+kevit=<a href="http://centurionsystemsltd.com/"
target="_blank">centurionsystemsltd.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+kevit</a>=<a
href="http://centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank">centurionsystemsltd.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Brian Longwe<br>
> Sent: 10 July 2008 18:57<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a><br>
><br>
> Cc: kictanet-lists<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce
in<br>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Sylvester,<br>
><br>
> Thank you so very much for highlighting yet another way in which
KICTANET<br>
> is beneficial to the communicat at large. through KICTANET we all learn
so<br>
> many good things that are happening in/around - and can then make our
own<br>
> decisions as to whether to follow up/engage.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Brian<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Sylvester Kisonzo<br>
> <<a href="mailto:skisonzo@securenet.co.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:skisonzo@securenet.co.ke" target="_blank">skisonzo@securenet.co.ke</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> And where can I read (or get information) about all these new names to
me?<br>
> KEPSA, KIF, etc? Until recently when I joined this group, I had
never<br>
heard<br>
> of them. So I wonder how all the 'stakeholders' have all along been<br>
> involved.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> SK<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From:<br>
> kictanet-bounces+skisonzo=<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+skisonzo" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+skisonzo</a>=<a
href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Joseph Manthi<br>
> Sent: 09 July 2008 20:47<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:skisonzo@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:skisonzo@gmail.com" target="_blank">skisonzo@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cc: kictanet-lists<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce
in<br>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Waudo:<br>
> I would like to pose a simple question:<br>
><br>
> Why are these associations needed?<br>
><br>
> Joe<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, waudo siganga <<a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Brian - DFID set up KEPSA in 2001 to unite the private sector voice. The<br>
> idea was to bring together EXISTING associations. Someone got
early wind<br>
> that ICT was one of the identified sectors and decided to register
a NEW<br>
> association ostensibly as an umbrella body. The real umbrella body
was<br>
> actually supposed to be KEPSA, under its ICT Board. Period. Why
did<br>
> someone find a pressing need to form a NEW association???<br>
><br>
> Anyway right now that is history and KEPSA ICT Board is on the right<br>
> track with all associations on board. We have to struggle to make
sure<br>
> it stays that way. I do not understand why you seem to be
insisting on<br>
> someone visiting KIF. What is the value addition? What can one
discover<br>
> there??? Some say there are personal companies underneath and KIF
is the<br>
> front but I do not wish to walk in that mud. My interest is KEPSA
ICT<br>
> Board not being equated with KIF.<br>
> Waudo<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:31:54 +0300, "Brian Munyao Longwe"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>>
said:<br>
> > Actually if my memory serves me right. KIF is KEPSAs
"child" i.e when<br>
> > KEPSA decided to have sector clusters KIF was established
*by* KEpsa<br>
> > to act as the umbrella for ICT private sector.<br>
> ><br>
> > But I stand to be corrected if I'm getting my facts wrong.
But if I am<br>
> > right then it *is* important for any critics to understand
the inner<br>
> > workings by visiting.<br>
> ><br>
> > I am urging action instead of just talk.<br>
> ><br>
> > Brian<br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from my iPhone<br>
> ><br>
> > On 09 Jul 2008, at 6:39 PM, "waudo siganga" <<a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Hi Brian - I do not think that the issue is an interest
in the<br>
> > > internal<br>
> > > operations of KIF. We are talking governance in the
context of KEPSA/<br>
> > > KIF<br>
> > > relationship, something also of interest to the consumer
community.<br>
> > > For<br>
> > > your information last year all stakeholders held a
meeting in KEPSA<br>
> > > and<br>
> > > decided to open membership to all interested Private
Sector<br>
> > > associations. This was after it was observed that the
hitherto<br>
> > > stranglehold on KEPSA by KIF meant that the sector was
not adequately<br>
> > > represented. Some people may have felt unhappy or even
insecure with<br>
> > > this development. The problem is that my friend Kevit,
being the<br>
KEPSA<br>
> > > ICT director uses his position to constantly market KIF
as if it is a<br>
> > > favoured player in KEPSA (e.g. "I would like to
confirm that the<br>
> > > KEPSA/KIF relationship is vibrant." - as if
implying the other<br>
> > > associations are dead) He is often busy promoting
"KIF Positions"<br>
> > > instead of "KEPSA Positions" including using
KIF letterheads at the<br>
> > > MSFs. I have misgivings about the current ICT leadership
in KEPSA<br>
> > > but I<br>
> > > am hopeful things will change.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Waudo<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:54:41 +0300, "Brian Munyao
Longwe"<br>
> > > <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>>
said:<br>
> > >> Hi Alex,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I would find it hard to imagine how much more Kevit
can explain to<br>
> > >> you<br>
> > >> about KIF.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I would like to suggest that Kevit extend an
invitation to you (and<br>
> > >> anyone else who might be interested/concerned) to
attend the next<br>
KIF<br>
> > >> meeting as an observer and see/feel the animal
yourself.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Brian<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> On 09 Jul 2008, at 3:45 PM, Alex Gakuru <<a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> > >> wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >>> Kevit:<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> I am afraid you have not clarified well enough.
I shall not ask you<br>
> > >>> further KEPSA questions although on your
previous email you told<br>
> > >>> Waundo "As the director of KEPSA I
welcome CSK and any other<br>
> > >>> association to full membership of KEPSA."
Apparently this now<br>
> > >>> appears to have changed. And I doubt Waundo
complained of<br>
> > >>> "exclusion" not of his private self,
rather of CSK? I could be<br>
wrong<br>
> > >>> but he could clarify.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> On Jun 23, 2008 it was announced that a
"Local Software Industry<br>
> > >>> Association established" with, among
others, "3.1 Objective, Market<br>
> > >>> the local software industry to venture capitalists."
(see<br>
> > >>> announcement document attached) Was it
registered under Societies<br>
> > >>> Act<br>
> > >>> ( Read Public interest) or as Private
(non-or-for-profit) Company?<br>
I<br>
> > >>> found it strange it was formed 3 days to aour
very successful and<br>
> > >>> OPEN BarCamp. Is this one also under your
umbrella?<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> On the links you sent onlist:<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> <a href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/"
target="_blank">www.innovation-africa.net</a><br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Domain Name: <a
href="http://innovation-africa.net/" target="_blank">INNOVATION-AFRICA.NET</a><br>
> > >>> Registrar: TUCOWS INC.<br>
> > >>> Whois Server: <a
href="http://whois.tucows.com/" target="_blank">whois.tucows.com</a><br>
> > >>> Referral URL: <a
href="http://domainhelp.opensrs.net/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://domainhelp.opensrs.net/" target="_blank">http://domainhelp.opensrs.net</a><br>
> > >>> Name Server: <a
href="http://ultra103.uk2.net/" target="_blank">ULTRA103.UK2.NET</a><br>
> > >>> Name Server: <a
href="http://ultra104.uk2.net/" target="_blank">ULTRA104.UK2.NET</a><br>
> > >>> Status: redemptionPeriod<br>
> > >>> Updated Date: 24-jun-2008<br>
> > >>> Creation Date: 14-may-2007<br>
> > >>> Expiration Date: 14-may-2008<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> I tried <a
href="http://www.innovation-africa.co.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.innovation-africa.co.ke/" target="_blank">www.innovation-africa.co.ke</a>
>> was re-directing to >><br>
> <a href="http://www.kif.or.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.kif.or.ke/" target="_blank">www.kif.or.ke</a><br>
> > >>> ( but today it now says "under
construction") I gather Centurion<br>
> > >>> Systems offices accommodates KIF, is that
correct?<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> What I am trying is to understand is who speaks
in the background<br>
> > >>> when when "KIF" issues
"stakeholders" statements on an issue,how<br>
> > >>> representative or public service-oriented, good
governance, in<br>
> > >>> trying to understand new and old associations'
motives.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> With above information, it would clear doubts of
public policy<br>
> > >>> participation illegitimacy or inappropriate
public procurement<br>
> > >>> involvement(s). For the sake of our growing
transparent ICTs<br>
> > >>> abundantly rewarding enterprising citizens.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Alex<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, kevit desai<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>><br>
> > >>> wrote:<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>>> From: kevit desai <<a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>><br>
> > >>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and
Regulation for e-Commerce<br>
> > >>>> in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>> To: <a href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com"
target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a><br>
> > >>>> Cc: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'kictanet-lists'</st1:PersonName>"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:50 AM<br>
> > >>>> Hi Alex,<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> I'm pleased to clarify as much as I can.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Kepsa has an open membership of PRIVATE
sector industry and<br>
> > >>>> market segment<br>
> > >>>> associations in almost all economic sectors.
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Independence</st1:place></st1:City>
:<br>
> > >>>> KEPSA decisions<br>
> > >>>> are dependent on members wishes, and members
are drawn from<br>
> > >>>> the private<br>
> > >>>> sector. In fact, NGO's are not approached
for<br>
> > >>>> membership in KEPSA, neither<br>
> > >>>> are government bodies including parastatals.
KIF follows<br>
> > >>>> the same approach<br>
> > >>>> for membership and decision-making. No NGO's
and<br>
> > >>>> government agencies are<br>
> > >>>> member ofn KIF. However, KEPSA and KIF
consult on a REGULAR<br>
> > >>>> BASIS with all<br>
> > >>>> those stakeholders. Having said that, KEPSA
and KIF have no<br>
> > >>>> obligation to<br>
> > >>>> offer service to non members.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Hopefully this helps to clarify. Do get in
touch with Sam<br>
> > >>>> Mwaura of KEPSA or<br>
> > >>>> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marcel Werner</st1:PersonName>
of KIF.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Kevit<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > >>>> From: Alex Gakuru [mailto:<a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a>]<br>
> > >>>> Sent: 09 July 2008 04:45<br>
> > >>>> To: kevit desai<br>
> > >>>> Cc: kictanet-lists<br>
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and
Regulation for<br>
> > >>>> e-Commerce in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Kevit,<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> How does KEPSA and KIF governance relate
ensuring decisions<br>
> > >>>> independence?<br>
> > >>>> The political issue here may be
monopolization to the<br>
> > >>>> extent of clouding out<br>
> > >>>> other actors thereby generating conflict.
The Motive Theory<br>
> > >>>> steps in.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> We investigate the effects of competition on
subjects'<br>
> > >>>> attitude towards<br>
> > >>>> cooperation. Three groups face three
economic environments<br>
> > >>>> with different<br>
> > >>>> degrees of competition, from a benchmark
case with no<br>
> > >>>> competition at all up<br>
> > >>>> to a perfect competition case. Subjects
contribute<br>
> > >>>> generously to a public<br>
> > >>>> project in the absence of competition,
whereas they<br>
> > >>>> contribute very little<br>
> > >>>> in the presence of a maximum degree of
competition. A<br>
> > >>>> diminishing attitude<br>
> > >>>> towards cooperation clearly emerges as the
degree of<br>
> > >>>> competition increases.<br>
> > >>>> Therefore, if cooperation does enhance
well-being, the<br>
> > >>>> maximum degree of<br>
> > >>>> competition may be not efficient.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
><br>
<<a
href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba"
target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba"
target="_blank">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba</a><br>
> > >>>> 6a6f51d7da9d40d806eb><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> react.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> --- On Tue, 7/8/08, kevit desai<br>
> > >>>> <<a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>>> From: kevit desai<br>
> > >>>> <<a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>><br>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and
Regulation for<br>
> > >>>> e-Commerce in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>> To: <a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com" target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a><br>
> > >>>>> Cc: <a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>,
"'KICTAnet ICT<br>
> > >>>> Policy Discussions'"<br>
> > >>>> <<a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> > >>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:14 PM<br>
> > >>>>> Hi Waudo,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> As the director of KEPSA I welcome
CSK and any other<br>
> > >>>>> association to full<br>
> > >>>>> membership of KEPSA. We look forward to
a meaningful<br>
> > >>>>> partnership.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Kevit Desai<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> _____<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> From: waudo siganga<br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>]<br>
> > >>>>> Sent: 08 July 2008 13:55<br>
> > >>>>> To: Kevit Desai<br>
> > >>>>> Cc: <a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>;
'KICTAnet ICT Policy<br>
> > >>>>> Discussions'<br>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and
Regulation for<br>
> > >>>>> e-Commerce in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Hello Kevit - I think one needs to be
careful when<br>
> > >>>> handling<br>
> > >>>>> KEPSA and KIF at<br>
> > >>>>> the same time. Do not use your foothold
in KEPSA to<br>
> > >>>> promote<br>
> > >>>>> KIF at the<br>
> > >>>>> expense of other associations. The
explanation is very<br>
> > >>>>> simple: KEPSA was<br>
> > >>>>> formed as a focal point, a bringing together<br>
> > >>>> characterised<br>
> > >>>>> by INCLUSIVITY.<br>
> > >>>>> KIF on the other hand is an independent
association<br>
> > >>>> and the<br>
> > >>>>> nature of such<br>
> > >>>>> an association is EXCLUSIVITY (through
membership<br>
> > >>>>> mechanism). I would like<br>
> > >>>>> to see the promotion of more
associations on the KEPSA<br>
> > >>>> ICT<br>
> > >>>>> Board, not just<br>
> > >>>>> KIF. Please give us space.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Waudo<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:07:07 +0300,
"Kevit<br>
> > >>>> Desai"<br>
> > >>>>> <<a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>>
said:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Hi Alex,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> KEPSA (<a href="mailto:info@kepsa.or.ke"
target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:info@kepsa.or.ke" target="_blank">info@kepsa.or.ke</a>):
private sector policy body<br>
> > >>>> with<br>
> > >>>>> its own governance<br>
> > >>>>> structure. Elected as a director in
private capacity<br>
> > >>>> and as<br>
> > >>>>> KIF vice<br>
> > >>>>> chairman.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> KIF (<a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>):
membership-based industry<br>
> > >>>>> association, member<br>
> > >>>>> of KEPSA's ICT section. Elected as
vice-chairman.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Centurion Systems Ltd: (<a
href="http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank">www.centurionsystemsltd.com</a>)<br>
> > >>>>> private company,<br>
> > >>>>> director, member of KIF.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems
Ltd<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Chairperson IEEE - <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> Section<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Chairperson - Engineering Students
Exhibition<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Governor - KEPSA<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Director - KEPSA<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Director - Innovation <st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Director-</st1:City>
<st1:country-region w:st="on">Kenya</st1:country-region></st1:place> ICT
Board<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Vice Chairman - <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ICT
Federation<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> BOA - AIESEC<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Member - National Strategy for
University Education<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable
Business(GSB)-UNDP<br>
> > >>>> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> General Co-Chair - Africon 2009<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Raphta Rd</span></font></i></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></address>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> , Westlands - <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Nairobi</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> P.O. BOX 66031 - 00800 Nrb.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Tel:+254 20 4440102/3 Fax: +254 20
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> > >>>>> 2049750<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>
: +254 722 517067<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a
href="http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank">http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.ieee.org/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.ieee.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ieee.org</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a
href="http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a
href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.innovation-africa.net/" target="_blank">http://www.innovation-africa.net</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.kepsa.or.ke/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.kepsa.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kepsa.or.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.powerup.co.ke/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.powerup.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.powerup.co.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.aiesec.org/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.aiesec.org/" target="_blank">http://www.aiesec.org</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.africon2007.co.za/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.africon2007.co.za/" target="_blank">http://www.africon2007.co.za</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.kif.or.ke/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.kif.or.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.kif.or.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> htpp://<a href="http://www.ict.go.ke/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.ict.go.ke/" target="_blank">www.ict.go.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://www.globalcompact.org/"
target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.globalcompact.org/" target="_blank">http://www.globalcompact.org</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a
href="http://www.undp.org/business/gsb" target="_blank"></a><a
href="http://www.undp.org/business/gsb" target="_blank">http://www.undp.org/business/gsb</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > >>>>> From: waudo siganga<br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>]<br>
> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:40 PM<br>
> > >>>>> To: kevit desai<br>
> > >>>>> Cc: <a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>;
'KICTAnet ICT Policy<br>
> > >>>>> Discussions'<br>
> > >>>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and
Regulation for<br>
> > >>>>> e-Commerce in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Hello Kevit - Since you sent this
message to KICTANET<br>
> > >>>> I can<br>
> > >>>>> answer it on<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> the same forum. I think the picture
being painted<br>
> > >>>> about a<br>
> > >>>>> rosy situation<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> including "collaboration" is
simply not<br>
> > >>>> true. The<br>
> > >>>>> reason to be frank is<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> that there a few in your KIF who do not
want any other<br>
> > >>>>> association to<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> have a voice in KEPSA or to interact
with Government.<br>
> > >>>> Could<br>
> > >>>>> you as a<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> KEPSA director ensure that all
interested associations<br>
> > >>>>> including the<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> major ones not in KIF are allowed room
to contribute<br>
> > >>>> in<br>
> > >>>>> KEPSA? It can be<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> sad if you mis-use your position in
KEPSA only to<br>
> > >>>> promote<br>
> > >>>>> KIF and crack<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> down on those you feel are in the way.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> Waudo<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:31 +0300,
"kevit<br>
> > >>>> desai"<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <<a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a>>
said:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Hi Walu,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Associations are welcome to be
members of KEPSA.<br>
> > >>>> I<br>
> > >>>>> would like to confirm<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> that the KEPSA/KIF relationship is
vibrant. We<br>
> > >>>> would<br>
> > >>>>> like to do a lot<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> more<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> and welcome more support.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> We appreciate Waudo's contributions
at our<br>
> > >>>> last<br>
> > >>>>> ministerial stakeholder<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> forum.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Collaboration is the way forward.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Kevit Desai<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> KEPSA Director<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> From:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> kictanet-bounces+kevit=<a href="http://centurionsystemsltd.com/"
target="_blank">centurionsystemsltd.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+kevit</a>=<a
href="http://centurionsystemsltd.com/" target="_blank">centurionsystemsltd.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> > >>>> ]<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> On Behalf Of waudo siganga<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Sent: 07 July 2008 19:02<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> To: <a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com" target="_blank">kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Cc: <a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>;
KICTAnet ICT Policy<br>
> > >>>>> Discussions<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation
and<br>
> > >>>> Regulation for<br>
> > >>>>> e-Commerce in<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Hi Walu - I am catching you loud and
clear on<br>
> > >>>> GPRS<br>
> > >>>>> somewhere in the<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> bush. I did bring out the issue of
regulating the<br>
> > >>>> IT<br>
> > >>>>> (or ICT) Profession<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> on this list a few months ago. But
the rather<br>
> > >>>>> unenthusiastic response I<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> got gave me the sense that possibly
this was not<br>
> > >>>> the<br>
> > >>>>> correct list since<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> many of the subscribers appear just
interested in<br>
> > >>>> ICT<br>
> > >>>>> Policy rather than<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> being actual IT Experts. Within the
next two<br>
> > >>>> weeks<br>
> > >>>>> there will be another<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> list for professionals and you will
be informed<br>
> > >>>> (you<br>
> > >>>>> have the<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> qualifications, don't you??). We are
pushing<br>
> > >>>> for a<br>
> > >>>>> registration board<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> like thise done last yeaer for
nutritionists and<br>
> > >>>>> Procurement<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Practitioners. There is a lot of
work going on<br>
> > >>>>> unheralded. All we need<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> is a champion or chanpions in the
right place.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> Waudo<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:45:53 -0700
(PDT),<br>
> > >>>> "John<br>
> > >>>>> Walubengo"<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com"
target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>>
said:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> Marcel,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> It looks like quite some work
has been<br>
> > >>>> ongoing in<br>
> > >>>>> this<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> area...unfortunately it seems as
if it was<br>
> > >>>>> restricted within KIF only?<br>
> > >>>>> I<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> wonder if Computer Society of
Kenya (CSK,<br>
> > >>>> Waudo r<br>
> > >>>>> u there?) or<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> Information Security Audit &
Control<br>
> > >>>>> (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just to<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> mention some of the big IT
Associations in<br>
> > >>>> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>> were involved. I beg to<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> be enlightened.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> This brings in an old question -
who really<br>
> > >>>>> represents the IT Profession<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ? Shem has been on
record as saying<br>
> > >>>> that<br>
> > >>>>> IT is the only<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> discipline where we seem to lack
bodies with<br>
> > >>>> the<br>
> > >>>>> same authority as LSK<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> (Law Society of <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ), IEK
(Institute of<br>
> > >>>>> Engineers of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ), Medical<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> Practictioners Board amongst
others to<br>
> > >>>> regulate<br>
> > >>>>> the IT Profession.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> And by the way, KICTAnet does
not fit the<br>
> > >>>> bill<br>
> > >>>>> either (and has a<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> different objective anyway).
But time has<br>
> > >>>> come<br>
> > >>>>> to really start thinking<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> of regulating the IT profession,
even as we<br>
> > >>>>> struggle to regulate the<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> industry...Ideally, CSK should
take the lead<br>
> > >>>> on<br>
> > >>>>> this, but they have been<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> awfully quite except when they
award prizes<br>
> > >>>> at<br>
> > >>>>> the end of the year<br>
> > >>>>> (Waudo<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> I know u will kill me offline
but I just had<br>
> > >>>> to<br>
> > >>>>> say it!).<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> KEPSA? very reputable and
effective<br>
> > >>>> particularly<br>
> > >>>>> in the Manufacturing<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> sector but on IT? am not sure
they have been<br>
> > >>>> as<br>
> > >>>>> effective - particularly<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> because the link between
KEPSA/KIF and the<br>
> > >>>> IT<br>
> > >>>>> industry has been 'cloudy'<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> for lack of a better word...Can
for example<br>
> > >>>> CSK<br>
> > >>>>> or ISACA be part of<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> KEPSA without being part of KIF?
I again<br>
> > >>>> need to<br>
> > >>>>> be enlightened.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> O.K. I agree I did digress, but
just<br>
> > >>>> thinking<br>
> > >>>>> loudly and saying that as<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> we think of regulating
electronic<br>
> > >>>> transactions,<br>
> > >>>>> we also need to<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> simultaneously start regulating
the IT<br>
> > >>>>> profession..but maybe I am wrong.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> Particularly because regulation
can and<br>
> > >>>> often<br>
> > >>>>> leads to suppression...<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> walu.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Marcel Werner</st1:PersonName><br>
> > >>>>> <<a
href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcelcwerner@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Marcel
Werner</st1:PersonName><br>
> > >>>>> <<a
href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcelcwerner@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [kictanet]
Legislation and<br>
> > >>>>> Regulation for e-Commerce in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> To: <a
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: <a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke" target="_blank">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>,<br>
> > >>>> "KICTAnet<br>
> > >>>>> ICT Policy Discussions"<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>> <<a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank"></a><a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008,
6:43 PM<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Legislation and Regulation
for<br>
> > >>>> e-Commerce in<br>
> > >>>>> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ICT Federation (KIF) -
Briefing<br>
> > >>>> Note #<br>
> > >>>>> 3 - Report -<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Public Panel 19<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> June 2008<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> *Electronic commerce
(e-commerce) will<br>
> > >>>> add<br>
> > >>>>> at least one<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> percent point growth<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> to <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> 's
overall economic growth<br>
> > >>>>> within five years.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> This is contingent<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> upon the adoption of
legislation that<br>
> > >>>>> supports electronic<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> transactions. * <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> ,<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> as an emerging economy and
regional<br>
> > >>>> leader,<br>
> > >>>>> lags behind in<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> having a legal<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> framework for e-commerce in
place. The<br>
> > >>>>> current situation is<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> an anachronism<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> hampering national
development, placing<br>
> > >>>>> provincial centres<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> at a<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> disadvantage, and harming
global<br>
> > >>>>> competitiveness. Both<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> external and internal<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> trade require the new
framework.The<br>
> > >>>> Kenyan<br>
> > >>>>> private sector<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> strongly supports<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> e-commerce legislation, as
well as<br>
> > >>>>> legislation of the<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Information and<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Communication Technology
sector that<br>
> > >>>>> guarantees an open<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> market and promotes<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> innovation.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> Why e-commerce law? Today,
legislation<br>
> > >>>>> supporting<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> electronic transactions<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> represents the single most
powerful<br>
> > >>>>> innovation opportunity<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> in the legal<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> framework of the ICT sector.<br>
> > >>>> Legislation is<br>
> > >>>>> needed to:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> -Legalize e-commerce
transactions by<br>
> > >>>>> recognizing an<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> electronic signature<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>>>>> -Manage and control
e-commerce r<br>
> > >>> < <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">KENYA</st1:place></st1:country-region> SOFTWARE INDUSTRY
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