Hi Waudo,<br><br>There's the <a href="http://ole.kenic.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks">skunkworks email list</a> which is mostly made up of technology professionals and enthusiasts. ICTS regulation/standards has come up more than once for discussion on the list<br>
<br>(Aside: My first post on KICTANET)<br><br><br><br>Regards<br>Josiah<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:01 PM, waudo siganga <<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Walu - I am catching you loud and clear on GPRS somewhere in the<br>
bush. I did bring out the issue of regulating the IT (or ICT) Profession<br>
on this list a few months ago. But the rather unenthusiastic response I<br>
got gave me the sense that possibly this was not the correct list since<br>
many of the subscribers appear just interested in ICT Policy rather than<br>
being actual IT Experts. Within the next two weeks there will be another<br>
list for professionals and you will be informed (you have the<br>
qualifications, don't you??). We are pushing for a registration board<br>
like thise done last yeaer for nutritionists and Procurement<br>
Practitioners. There is a lot of work going on unheralded. All we need<br>
is a champion or chanpions in the right place.<br>
Waudo<br>
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo"<br>
<<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> said:<br>
> Marcel,<br>
><br>
> It looks like quite some work has been ongoing in this<br>
> area...unfortunately it seems as if it was restricted within KIF only? I<br>
> wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, Waudo r u there?) or<br>
> Information Security Audit & Control (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just to<br>
> mention some of the big IT Associations in Kenya were involved. I beg to<br>
> be enlightened.<br>
><br>
> This brings in an old question - who really represents the IT Profession<br>
> in Kenya? Shem has been on record as saying that IT is the only<br>
> discipline where we seem to lack bodies with the same authority as LSK<br>
> (Law Society of Kenya), IEK (Institute of Engineers of Kenya), Medical<br>
> Practictioners Board amongst others to regulate the IT Profession.<br>
><br>
> And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the bill either (and has a<br>
> different objective anyway). But time has come to really start thinking<br>
> of regulating the IT profession, even as we struggle to regulate the<br>
> industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead on this, but they have been<br>
> awfully quite except when they award prizes at the end of the year (Waudo<br>
> I know u will kill me offline but I just had to say it!).<br>
><br>
> KEPSA? very reputable and effective particularly in the Manufacturing<br>
> sector but on IT? am not sure they have been as effective - particularly<br>
> because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the IT industry has been 'cloudy'<br>
> for lack of a better word...Can for example CSK or ISACA be part of<br>
> KEPSA without being part of KIF? I again need to be enlightened.<br>
><br>
> O.K. I agree I did digress, but just thinking loudly and saying that as<br>
> we think of regulating electronic transactions, we also need to<br>
> simultaneously start regulating the IT profession..but maybe I am wrong.<br>
> Particularly because regulation can and often leads to suppression...<br>
><br>
> walu.<br>
> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner <<a href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com">marcelcwerner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > From: Marcel Werner <<a href="mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com">marcelcwerner@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
> > Cc: <a href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> > Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM<br>
> > Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya<br>
> ><br>
> > Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report -<br>
> > Public Panel 19<br>
> > June 2008<br>
> ><br>
> > *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one<br>
> > percent point growth<br>
> > to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years.<br>
> > This is contingent<br>
> > upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic<br>
> > transactions. *Kenya,<br>
> > as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in<br>
> > having a legal<br>
> > framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is<br>
> > an anachronism<br>
> > hampering national development, placing provincial centres<br>
> > at a<br>
> > disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both<br>
> > external and internal<br>
> > trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector<br>
> > strongly supports<br>
> > e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the<br>
> > Information and<br>
> > Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open<br>
> > market and promotes<br>
> > innovation.<br>
> ><br>
> > Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting<br>
> > electronic transactions<br>
> > represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity<br>
> > in the legal<br>
> > framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to:<br>
> > -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an<br>
> > electronic signature<br>
> > -Manage and control e-commerce risks<br>
> > -Remove e-commerce barriers<br>
> > KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public<br>
> > domain, the<br>
> > Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the<br>
> > Electronic Transactions<br>
> > Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest<br>
> > technical<br>
> > standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the<br>
> > economy (including<br>
> > tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th<br>
> > May, 4th June and<br>
> > 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed<br>
> > overwhelming support for<br>
> > urgent legislation of e-commerce.<br>
> ><br>
> > Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and<br>
> > hearings to date<br>
> > have yielded the following important issues for improvement<br>
> > in the current<br>
> > Bills:<br>
> ><br>
> > - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing<br>
> ><br>
> > - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be<br>
> > demarcated<br>
> ><br>
> > - Clarification on which commercial documents are<br>
> > excluded from<br>
> > proposed legislation<br>
> ><br>
> > - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of<br>
> > electronic evidence<br>
> ><br>
> > - Need for data protection and privacy provisions<br>
> ><br>
> > - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud<br>
> > than on<br>
> > traditional fraud<br>
> ><br>
> > - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and<br>
> > punishments<br>
> ><br>
> > - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime<br>
> > within the scope of<br>
> > the Extradition Act<br>
> ><br>
> > - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws<br>
> > whose functions<br>
> > will be policy implementation and advisory, as a<br>
> > multi-sectoral body with<br>
> > industry associations including KIF, lead regulator<br>
> > Communications<br>
> > Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya<br>
> ><br>
> > Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare<br>
> ><br>
> > Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are<br>
> > expressing their desire<br>
> > to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line<br>
> > travel bookings have<br>
> > exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in<br>
> > off-line bookings is<br>
> > in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally<br>
> > support abundant<br>
> > on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share.<br>
> > E-commerce in<br>
> > agriculture will improve small-holder's living<br>
> > standards. Great impact is<br>
> > expected notably in the coffee sector that provides<br>
> > livelihood to at least 5<br>
> > million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry.<br>
> > Healthcare efficiency and<br>
> > affordability will improve by on-line health data<br>
> > management systems.<br>
> > Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have<br>
> > also expressed keen<br>
> > interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade<br>
> > efficiency and<br>
> > security in rural Kenya.<br>
> ><br>
> > What is e-commerce<br>
> ><br>
> > E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based<br>
> > documentation by<br>
> > a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and<br>
> > sellers.<br>
> > E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an<br>
> > irreversible trend.<br>
> > Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by<br>
> > mutual<br>
> > agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach<br>
> > its full potential<br>
> > when parties that do not know each other are able to trade<br>
> > with full mutual<br>
> > protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers<br>
> > of consumers and<br>
> > businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism<br>
> > operators, small-scale<br>
> > industry and services providers in almost any business<br>
> > sector.<br>
> ><br>
> > About KIF<br>
> ><br>
> > The Kenya Information and Communication Technology<br>
> > Federation (KIF)<br>
> > represents the ICT industry with Government and with<br>
> > private sector bodies<br>
> > e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private<br>
> > Sector Alliance<br>
> > KEPSA <<a href="http://www.kepsa.org/" target="_blank">http://www.kepsa.org/</a>>. KIF is a legally<br>
> > registered membership based<br>
> > Association, made up of trade associations and professional<br>
> > bodies within<br>
> > the national ICT industry, as well as commercial<br>
> > corporations. KIF has been<br>
> > accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government.<br>
> > KIF contributes<br>
> > ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education,<br>
> > agriculture, construction<br>
> > industry, and last but not least supports e-government<br>
> > development. KIF is a<br>
> > membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on<br>
> > public policy and<br>
> > industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues<br>
> > include:<br>
> > innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes<br>
> > and levies, rural<br>
> > ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with<br>
> > excellent<br>
> > relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership<br>
> > is open for<br>
> > market segment associations and individual companies.<br>
> > Membership charges are<br>
> > annual and based on company size. Contact:<br>
> > <a href="mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke">secretariat@kif.or.ke</a>, 020<br>
> > 4440102<br>
> > MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation<br>
> ><br>
> > please send any business mail to:<br>
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