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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for the explanation. I have no further doubts that I subscribed
to the right list. I was a bit confused when I recently saw a message referring
to the forum as a personal outfit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To all... take that as my introduction to the group!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>SK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brian Longwe [mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 July 2008 10:43<br>
<b>To:</b> skisonzo@securenet.co.ke<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Sylvester/and other
listmembers,<br>
<br>
While I appreciate your point of view it is also important for us to ensure
that we maintain an atmosphere within the list that 'breeds' dialogue - and
encourages healthy debate while discouraging personal/personality attacks.<br>
<br>
This list is not simply there for people in ICT to blaze whenever and at
whomever they want. It serves a very significant role of providing a platform
that cuts across every layer of our society and allows debate/dialogue on the
very issues that affect our ICT sector.<br>
<br>
This debate and dialogue will often end up in some very clear imperatives which
are then taken and turned into actions - actions which affect the entire
nation.<br>
<br>
KICTANET has played a very significant and key role in:<br>
- adoption/ratification of VOIP regulations<br>
- introduction of fully liberalised international data gateways<br>
- development of a 'single' ICT policy - and subsequent ratification/adoption
by Cabinet<br>
- several input towards taxations issues surrounding ICTs<br>
<br>
All of the above are areas that have benefited from the civility, seriousness,
focus, determination and commitment from the various stakeholders in KICTANET.
It has also acted as a magnet and drawn many, both locally and from abroad who
have an interest in Kenya's ICT sector. I will also add that some of those
interests are not always noble and we have had cases in the past where
individuals who have refused to adhere to the code and ethics of this list have
had to be removed and left to find other places where they can dispense their
vitriol.<br>
<br>
It is therefore very critical for us to defend and protect the integrity,
freedom and openness of this list so that it can play it's part in helping
KICTANET fulfil it larger role of *Action* in Kenya's ICT sector.<br>
<br>
Let us not lose focus.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
Chairperson, KICTANET<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Sylvester Kisonzo <<a
href="mailto:skisonzo@securenet.co.ke">skisonzo@securenet.co.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Well... I joined this group
recently... and while I realise it is a professional forum, I do not see why
members cannot question the integrity of others – that's democracy. I
accuse, I ought to be ready to be accused! I am not sure any professional group
can ignore matters of national importance for the fact that they are kind of
unrelated to the profession...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> kictanet-bounces+skisonzo=<a
href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bskisonzo" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+skisonzo</a>=<a
href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>@<a
href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Joseph Manthi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 July 2008 19:24<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:skisonzo@gmail.com" target="_blank">skisonzo@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth
Owned by Foreigners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Members:<br>
It seems to me that this particular discussion is becoming political. If it is,
I concur with Washington that the participants should look for another venue.<br>
<br>
Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Odhiambo Washington <<a
href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Shem Ochuodho <<a
href="mailto:shemochuodho@yahoo.com" target="_blank">shemochuodho@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Gakuru,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has never been heard.<br>
> Unfortunately, being in court, it even can't be discussed openly. They<br>
> control the courts. If there is anything more you know than I do, I would<br>
> like to hear it. So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask queries.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Shem<br>
><br>
> --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> From: Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">alex.gakuru@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:shemochuodho@yahoo.com" target="_blank">shemochuodho@yahoo.com</a><br>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a
href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM<br>
><br>
> Did the pipeline matter end to cast the first stone?<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello Shem & Alex,<br>
<br>
The direction the two of you are taking is "off topic" for this list.<br>
It would be wise to either cease this discussion now, or take your<br>
exchanges off list, please!<br>
I also don't understand why this is made to spill to "New Vision List<br>
<<a href="mailto:newvisionkenya@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">newvisionkenya@yahoogroups.com</a>>"
as I've seen that on the headers CC.<br>
<br>
Let's stick to the agendas for which this list was conceived.<br>
<br>
./Lists Admin<br>
<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Nairobi,KE<br>
+254733744121/+254722743223<br>
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