<div>A cross post.</div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">List policy certainly now re-railed. We do not wish anyone to unsubscribe.<BR>Wish you also moderatorly issue the command chmod "lurk" to 777 for another;)<BR><BR>Chao,<BR><BR><BR>--- On Thu, 7/3/08, John Walubengo <JWALU@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> From: John Walubengo <JWALU@YAHOO.COM><BR>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda<BR>> To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com<BR>> Cc: "New Vision List" <NEWVISIONKENYA@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:09 AM<BR>> Shem, Alex et al,<BR>> <BR>> Am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss or<BR>> speculate on who is the bigger thief within the ICT<BR>> industry. And if someone wishes to go in the
direction,<BR>> they must do so on conclusive evidence or at least try to<BR>> find a way to tie (disguise?) that discussion towards ICT<BR>> Policies - e.g. what ICT Policies need to be in place to<BR>> pre-empt such recurrence.<BR>> <BR>> If we dont stick to these guidelines, I foresee a lot of<BR>> members un-subscribing...starting with me.<BR>> <BR>> walu.<BR>> By the Way: I do love juicy stories, I just dont think that<BR>> this is the space for them.<BR>> <BR>> --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Shem Ochuodho<BR>> <SHEMOCHUODHO@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > From: Shem Ochuodho <SHEMOCHUODHO@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth<BR>> Owned by Foreigners<BR>> > To: jwalu@yahoo.com<BR>> > Cc: "New Vision List"<BR>> <NEWVISIONKENYA@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>, "KICTAnet ICT<BR>> Policy Discussions"<BR>> <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:41
AM<BR>> > Gakuru,<BR>> > <BR>> > I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has<BR>> never<BR>> > been heard. Unfortunately, being in court, it even<BR>> can't<BR>> > be discussed openly. They control the courts. If there<BR>> is<BR>> > anything more you know than I do, I would like to hear<BR>> it.<BR>> > So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask<BR>> queries.<BR>> > <BR>> > Shem<BR>> > <BR>> > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru<BR>> > <ALEX.GAKURU@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > From: Alex Gakuru <ALEX.GAKURU@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth<BR>> Owned by<BR>> > Foreigners<BR>> > To: shemochuodho@yahoo.com<BR>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"<BR>> > <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM<BR>> > <BR>> > Did the pipeline matter end to
cast the first stone? <BR>> > <BR>> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Shem Ochuodho<BR>> > <SHEMOCHUODHO@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > > From: Shem Ochuodho<BR>> <SHEMOCHUODHO@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth<BR>> > Owned by Foreigners<BR>> > > To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com<BR>> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"<BR>> > <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:30 AM<BR>> > > I hope PS Ndemo is/has been watching the<BR>> proceedings<BR>> > in<BR>> > > Parliament (re Hon. Kimunya Censor Debate re<BR>> Grand<BR>> > Regency,<BR>> > > Safaricom IPO, Telkom Kenya, etc!!!).<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Shem<BR>> > > <BR>> > > --- On Sun, 6/29/08, wesley kiriinya<BR>> > > <KIRIINYA2000@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: wesley
kiriinya<BR>> <KIRIINYA2000@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:<BR>> > [NewVisionKenya]<BR>> > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by<BR>> > Foreigners<BR>> > > To: "Shem Ochuodho"<BR>> > > <SHEMOCHUODHO@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"<BR>> > > <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> > > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 AM<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > "...Way forward, mobilize resources the<BR>> > Transcentury<BR>> > > way and buy out all that which is owned by<BR>> > foreiners. <BR>> > > They did not steal what they own. They simply<BR>> caught<BR>> > us<BR>> > > napping."<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Mmmhhh makes me wonder about this Grand Regency<BR>> thing.<BR>> >
And<BR>> > > many other things.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > --- On Sun, 6/22/08, bitange@jambo.co.ke<BR>> > > <BITANGE@JAMBO.CO.KE>wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: bitange@jambo.co.ke<BR>> <BITANGE@JAMBO.CO.KE><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:<BR>> > [NewVisionKenya]<BR>> > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by<BR>> > Foreigners<BR>> > > To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<BR>> > > Cc: "Kazi Afrika"<BR>> > > <KAZIAFRIKA@GOOGLEGROUPS.COM>,<BR>> "KICTAnet<BR>> > ICT<BR>> > > Policy Discussions"<BR>> > > <KICTANET@LISTS.KICTANET.OR.KE><BR>> > > Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 11:01 AM<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Although in telcom sector the law requiores local<BR>> > > partnership, what the research<BR>> > > is telling us is not a problem but an opportunity<BR>> that<BR>> > we<BR>>
> > must take advantage<BR>> > > of. The Tea estates referred to here have<BR>> changed<BR>> > hands<BR>> > > several times. It is<BR>> > > therefore<BR>> > > imperative that when they float them, we shall<BR>> > mobilize<BR>> > > resources to<BR>> > > buy them out.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > It is not enough to complain and leave the issue<BR>> to<BR>> > die. <BR>> > > There is need to<BR>> > > educate our people that in a capitalist economy,<BR>> there<BR>> > are<BR>> > > exit routs to pride<BR>> > > ourselves with ownweship of our properties. Some<BR>> > advamced<BR>> > > countries own far<BR>> > > less than 31 percent of their assets. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > We are fortunate that the investment bug has hit<BR>> Kenya<BR>> > if<BR>> > > Safaricom IPO is<BR>> > >
anything to go by. Unless we want to radically<BR>> change<BR>> > our<BR>> > > economic orientation<BR>> > > with respect to ownership, which I know it is not<BR>> > possible,<BR>> > > there is nothing to<BR>> > > fuss about.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury<BR>> way<BR>> > and<BR>> > > buy out all that which<BR>> > > is owned by foreiners. They did not steal what<BR>> they<BR>> > own. <BR>> > > They simply caught us<BR>> > > napping.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Ndemo<BR>> > >_______________________________________________<BR>> > kictanet mailing list<BR>> > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<BR>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<BR>> > <BR>> > This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com<BR>> > Unsubscribe or change your options at<BR>>
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