<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' ><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'><P>Gilda,</P>
<P> </P>
<P>My view is that the ICT Board is failing the BPO sector through sheer incompetence and inability to deliver. In particular, in the Marketing aspect (which is their core mandate) and ofcourse the bandwidth subsidy. What is the deputy CEO in charge of Marketing doing at the ICT Board?</P>
<P> </P>
<P>the industry had very high hopes when the ICT Board was formed last year.. in the previous two years, the BPO Society has tried to market Kenya as an outsourcing destination and even organised Kenya;s participation in Expo's in the UK and USA with support from the Ministry of Information, even though resources were very scarce as there was no budget to market Kenya as a BPO destination.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>It is therefore quite disappointing that we are midway through the year, and the ICT Board, which has a budget to market Kenya, hasnt done any marketing activities. Neither have they informed the industry what is their marketing strategy. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>The BPO industry in Kenya is dying. Those who invested are closing shop and selling off their equipment. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>What is the Board doing about marketing? Is the Deputy CEO in charge of Marketing going to tell us what her plans are for putting Kenya on the BPO map? What is the strategy?</P>
<P> </P>
<P>regards</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wambui Wakarema<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 20/6/08, Gilda Odera <I><godera@skyweb.co.ke></I></B> wrote:<BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Gilda Odera <godera@skyweb.co.ke><BR>Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38<BR>To: wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk<BR>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><BR>Date: Friday, 20 June, 2008, 1:55 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Dear Carol,
On behalf of the Kenya BPO and Contact Center Society I wish to make a few
remarks on the current status of the BPO Industry.
It is indeed correct to state that most of the BPO operators who started
operations last year and before have come to a suspension, others have
closed shop.
With the high cost of bandwidth, very few of the operators have been able to
sustain such high cost of operation. Indeed even those who are lucky to get
some trial contracts are unable to service them sufficiently, ending up in
not signing up the contracts.
Many have relied on this promise of the bandwidth subsidy. Others who
started their operations this year are now also running out of funds.
It is imperative that this issue be addressed urgently and the Society has
been in constant touch with the ICT Board following up this matter.
Unfortunately, the Industry players have become tired of our response of "
We are waiting for feedback from the ICT Board".
Two weeks ago, Industry players were sent a form by the ICT Board to fill
and send back. The form is meant to jump start the process. I would prefer
the Board to give more information on this though as I may not be in the
position to explain this further.
One important point raised by Carol though is that these centres need not
suspend or shut down if they can be provided with work from Government to
keep them busy while international marketing takes place. Bandwidth subsidy
alone will not keep these centres operating, they need work, constant work.
It is important to state that for Kenya to really become an active
outsourcing destination, much needs to be done. Many centres need to be
running. Support needs to be there for indigenous local companies given that
many international companies are the ones coming in to benefit from the
bandwidth subsidies. We need to position our domestic centers to be active
and take on some of the work when the ICT Board manages to attract
international contracts to Kenya or else we will be developing the business
for International companies who are not necessarily here for too long as
they always shop for alternative destinations. But if we develop our own, we
can be sure of long term sustainability as is the case in India.
The two go hand in hand, bandwidth and contracts. Without these two, even
making the proposed technology park a success may become a tall order. I
would have been happier seeing a good chunk of that money going into
marketing Kenya and winning contracts, the rest follows. Kenyans are very
enterprising and I have heard of so many private companies wanting to set up
technology parks. Maybe if Government had left that to private sector to do
and concentrate on marketing and human resource capacity building the
synergies would spiral faster.
Kind regards,
Gilda Odera
Chair, Kenya BPO and Contact Centre Society
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> Hi,
>
> Did I miss an email giving details of where to access the Master Plan or
> has
> it not been availed?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gilda Odera
> Managing Director
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>> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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>> Security was 1 of the items I talked about. There is a thin line
between
>> security being used as a wrong excuse not to implement a system and
where
>> it's a real concern.
>>
>> Anyway if all appropriate measures have been taken then it's OK.
As I
>> said, I appreciate that effort by the Gvmnt.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
>> To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
>>
>> I would like to balance this discussion by pointing out a historical
>> fact.....
>>
>> Due to "security" concerns our country was held back from a
liberalised
>> telecoms industry for years.
>>
>> There were a lot of misplaced fears which originated from blanket
>> generalisations of new technology and a fear of loss of control by the
>> powers that be.
>>
>>
>> When I set up KIXP at the end of 2000, it was shut down within two
weeks
>> because Telkom Kenya insinuated that it presented a national security
>> risk. It took us one whole year to educate, enlighten and lobby almost
>> every component of the Executive in order to get KIXP re-opened.
>>
>>
>> Today it is considered a 'national resource' and KRA even
wants to have
>> it
>> gazetted so that it can receive 24-hour physical security since it
plays
>> such an integral part of Kenya's economy.
>>
>> I am not saying that we should blind ourselves to the consideration of
>> security concerns, just that it is very easy to further delays
innovation
>> and development with hyped up discussions about security (or more
>> appropriately insecurity).
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> --
>> Brian Munyao Longwe
>> e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com
>> cell: + 254 722 518 744
>> blog : zinjlog.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Judy Okite
<judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> all your arguments are in place.....unfortunately we do not have a
cyber
>> crime law in place nor a data privacy law...(subject to be
>> corrected)....so before we go very far.....we need to make Kenyans
>> understand....
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. What is personal/private data?....very few understand that and why
it
>> may need to be protected...
>>
>> 2. what are the implications of the data,that this, system will hold,
in
>> the hands of a third party?...from here...we can ask for a document
for
>> public scrutiny.....what security measures...are in place...etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:06 PM, <tyrus@icsit.jkuat.ac.ke>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wesley,
>>
>> I totally agree with you on this point.
>>
>>
>>
>> Its one thing to set up a system where you will have citizens access
>> their
>>
>> details and its another entirely different thing to ensure its
security
>> is
>>
>> not compromised. Even as these guys come up with this revolutionary
>>
>> system, am sure they have security in mind and even more importantly
have
>>
>> taken the necessary steps to ensuring that its not compromised. What I
>>
>> always have qualms with as you are well aware of in skunkworks, is the
>>
>> reluctance by the developers or system operators to provide room for
>>
>> Independent Penetration Testing. Granted this is not a panacea for
>>
>> hack-proofing the system but will make the system devoid of common
>>
>> vulnerabilities like what we saw in the ipo website.
>>
>>
>>
>> In America, identity theft has occurred even on their secure servers
>> alike
>>
>> but if you look at the frequency, its relatively low since tests are
>>
>> carried out on the system very often and when loop holes are
discovered
>>
>> relevant authorities are informed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Its a very novel idea the Government is pursuing but even as we speak
>>
>> there are notable Govt bodies whose IT infrastructure's security
is very
>>
>> sketchy. If there was a dedicated body in the ICT Board to dedicatedly
>>
>> look into security issues regarding IT growth and implementation, I
guess
>>
>> there would be standards set even when putting a very basic
>> implementation
>>
>> like a web-site.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> "fyodor"
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:02:11 +0300
>> From: pwere@cascadegl.com
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Master Plan debate
>> To: waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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>> How do we access the Master Plan? I would like a copy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>:
>>
>>> Yes, if there is a place where the plan or the summary can be
>>> downloaded I would also be interested in a copy. Waudo
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:23:07 -0700, "Joshua Goldstein"
>>> <joshgoldstein@google.com> said:
>>> People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work
>>> (Confucius).
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:42:29 +0300
>> From: "alice wanjira" <wanjiraalice@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [kictanet] Policy Issue Briefs: Key activities the ICANN
>> community will be working on during the Paris meeting
>> To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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>> Posted on ICANN's website at
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are
>> /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/>
about some
>> of the key activities the ICANN community is working on in Paris and
>> beyond:
>>
>>Domain Name Monetization
>>
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/domain-name-monetization-jun08.pdf>
>>
>> Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
>>
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/internationalized-domain-names-jun08..pdf>
>>
>>
>> New gTLDs
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/new-gtlds-jun08.pdf>
>>
>> WHOIS <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/whois-jun08.pdf>
>>
>>
>> /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are
basic
>> introductions to important areas of Internet policy development that
are
>> being addressed by the ICANN community's bottom-up, consensus
based,
>> policymaking structure. They are designed and written by ICANN Policy
>> Staff to accommodate newcomers to ICANN, as well as ICANN issue
veterans
>> who may desire basic information on an unfamiliar issue. Translated
>> versions of all /Issue Briefs/ will be available soon online. We
would
>> appreciate your suggestions of additional topics for future /Policy
>> Issue Briefs <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> -- /please
send them
>> to /policy-staff@icann.org <mailto:policy-staff@icann.org>.
/Comments
>> on the substance of these /Issue Briefs/ is also welcome and should be
>> sent to the same email address.
>>
>> We encourage people to go beyond these brief introductions (if they
are
>> not involved in these issues) and learn more about the work of the
ICANN
>> community. To facilitate this, links to information on current Policy
>> development activities are provided in the left side-bar of this
webpage
>> <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/>, and we have included in
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>> development.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Denise Michel
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:54:45 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Wambui Wakarema <wambuiwakarema@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [kictanet] Marketing Kenya as a BPO Destination
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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>
> Is the ICT Board aware that the BPO industry in Kenya is in crisis? Most
> of the BPO's and Call Centres have suspended operations due to the
high
> cost of bandwidth. They are all waiting for the subsidy that never was..
> When is the subsidized bandwidh going to be released? There may be no
> BPO's to use it by the time it is released - if ever.
>
> Added to this is the struggle to get BPO work both locally and from
> overseas. Has the Board developed a strategy for marketing Kenya as an
> outsourcing destination? Am not talking about haphazard marketing
> activities and expos.. What is the long term strategy? Can industry
> players have a look at this strategy or plan?
>
> Wambui Wakarema
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke>
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:25:03
> To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Did I miss an email giving details of where to access the Master Plan or
> has
> it not been availed?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gilda Odera
> Managing Director
> Skyweb Technologies Ltd
> Tel: 254-20-2711446/2711760
> Fax: 254-20-2713934
> URL:www.skyweb.co.ke
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Gilda Odera" <godera@skyweb.co.ke>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 PM
> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37
>
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>> 3. Policy Issue Briefs: Key activities the ICANN community will
>> be working on during the Paris meeting (alice wanjira)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Message-ID: <575580.74948.qm@web34701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Security was 1 of the items I talked about. There is a thin line
between
>> security being used as a wrong excuse not to implement a system and
where
>> it's a real concern.
>>
>> Anyway if all appropriate measures have been taken then it's OK.
As I
>> said, I appreciate that effort by the Gvmnt.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: Brian Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
>> To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
>>
>> I would like to balance this discussion by pointing out a historical
>> fact.....
>>
>> Due to "security" concerns our country was held back from a
liberalised
>> telecoms industry for years.
>>
>> There were a lot of misplaced fears which originated from blanket
>> generalisations of new technology and a fear of loss of control by the
>> powers that be.
>>
>>
>> When I set up KIXP at the end of 2000, it was shut down within two
weeks
>> because Telkom Kenya insinuated that it presented a national security
>> risk. It took us one whole year to educate, enlighten and lobby almost
>> every component of the Executive in order to get KIXP re-opened.
>>
>>
>> Today it is considered a 'national resource' and KRA even
wants to have
>> it
>> gazetted so that it can receive 24-hour physical security since it
plays
>> such an integral part of Kenya's economy.
>>
>> I am not saying that we should blind ourselves to the consideration of
>> security concerns, just that it is very easy to further delays
innovation
>> and development with hyped up discussions about security (or more
>> appropriately insecurity).
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> --
>> Brian Munyao Longwe
>> e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com
>> cell: + 254 722 518 744
>> blog : zinjlog.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Judy Okite
<judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> all your arguments are in place.....unfortunately we do not have a
cyber
>> crime law in place nor a data privacy law...(subject to be
>> corrected)....so before we go very far.....we need to make Kenyans
>> understand....
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. What is personal/private data?....very few understand that and why
it
>> may need to be protected...
>>
>> 2. what are the implications of the data,that this, system will hold,
in
>> the hands of a third party?...from here...we can ask for a document
for
>> public scrutiny.....what security measures...are in place...etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:06 PM, <tyrus@icsit.jkuat.ac.ke>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wesley,
>>
>> I totally agree with you on this point.
>>
>>
>>
>> Its one thing to set up a system where you will have citizens access
>> their
>>
>> details and its another entirely different thing to ensure its
security
>> is
>>
>> not compromised. Even as these guys come up with this revolutionary
>>
>> system, am sure they have security in mind and even more importantly
have
>>
>> taken the necessary steps to ensuring that its not compromised. What I
>>
>> always have qualms with as you are well aware of in skunkworks, is the
>>
>> reluctance by the developers or system operators to provide room for
>>
>> Independent Penetration Testing. Granted this is not a panacea for
>>
>> hack-proofing the system but will make the system devoid of common
>>
>> vulnerabilities like what we saw in the ipo website.
>>
>>
>>
>> In America, identity theft has occurred even on their secure servers
>> alike
>>
>> but if you look at the frequency, its relatively low since tests are
>>
>> carried out on the system very often and when loop holes are
discovered
>>
>> relevant authorities are informed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Its a very novel idea the Government is pursuing but even as we speak
>>
>> there are notable Govt bodies whose IT infrastructure's security
is very
>>
>> sketchy. If there was a dedicated body in the ICT Board to dedicatedly
>>
>> look into security issues regarding IT growth and implementation, I
guess
>>
>> there would be standards set even when putting a very basic
>> implementation
>>
>> like a web-site.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> "fyodor"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:02:11 +0300
>> From: pwere@cascadegl.com
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Master Plan debate
>> To: waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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>> How do we access the Master Plan? I would like a copy.
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>> Quoting waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>:
>>
>>> Yes, if there is a place where the plan or the summary can be
>>> downloaded I would also be interested in a copy. Waudo
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:23:07 -0700, "Joshua Goldstein"
>>> <joshgoldstein@google.com> said:
>>> People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work
>>> (Confucius).
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:42:29 +0300
>> From: "alice wanjira" <wanjiraalice@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [kictanet] Policy Issue Briefs: Key activities the ICANN
>> community will be working on during the Paris meeting
>> To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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>> Posted on ICANN's website at
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are
>> /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/>
about some
>> of the key activities the ICANN community is working on in Paris and
>> beyond:
>>
>>Domain Name Monetization
>>
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/domain-name-monetization-jun08.pdf>
>>
>> Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
>>
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/internationalized-domain-names-jun08..pdf>
>>
>>
>> New gTLDs
<http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/new-gtlds-jun08.pdf>
>>
>> WHOIS <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/whois-jun08.pdf>
>>
>>
>> /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are
basic
>> introductions to important areas of Internet policy development that
are
>> being addressed by the ICANN community's bottom-up, consensus
based,
>> policymaking structure. They are designed and written by ICANN Policy
>> Staff to accommodate newcomers to ICANN, as well as ICANN issue
veterans
>> who may desire basic information on an unfamiliar issue. Translated
>> versions of all /Issue Briefs/ will be available soon online. We
would
>> appreciate your suggestions of additional topics for future /Policy
>> Issue Briefs <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> -- /please
send them
>> to /policy-staff@icann.org <mailto:policy-staff@icann.org>.
/Comments
>> on the substance of these /Issue Briefs/ is also welcome and should be
>> sent to the same email address.
>>
>> We encourage people to go beyond these brief introductions (if they
are
>> not involved in these issues) and learn more about the work of the
ICANN
>> community. To facilitate this, links to information on current Policy
>> development activities are provided in the left side-bar of this
webpage
>> <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/>, and we have included in
each
>> /Issue Brief/ URLs to additional information. We also invite you to
>> receive regular updates on ICANN policy development activities via
>> e-mail by subscribing to the monthly / //Policy Updates
>> <http://www.icann.org/topics/policy/>/ (previous /Updates/
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visit the
>> ICANN Subscription page <http://www.icann.org/newsletter/> at
>> <http://icann.org/newsletter/>, enter your e-mail address, and
then
>> click on /ICANN Policy Update/.
>>
>> Thank you for your interest and participation in ICANN policy
>> development.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Denise Michel
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>> policy-staff@icann.org <mailto:policy-staff@icann.org>
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