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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Walu and all<BR>
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And its not just the ICANN meeting, we have lost UPU among many others.<BR>
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alice<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: kictanet-bounces+wanjira=cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of John Walubengo<BR>
Sent: Wed 27/02/2008 19:56<BR>
To: Wanjira, Alice Munyua<BR>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya loses the ICANN meeting scheduled for November2008<BR>
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Hey all,<BR>
<BR>
Apologies for having to resurrect this post. I had not<BR>
appreciated the full impact of Kenya missing out on the<BR>
above opportunity until after I attended the recent<BR>
Internet Governance Forum (IGF) preparatory meeting in GVA.<BR>
<BR>
I was totally overwhelmed by the dissapointment felt by all<BR>
delegates, but especially the AFRICAN delegates who had<BR>
voted for Kenya to hold the above conference. The lose was<BR>
definately more AFRICAN than KENYAN. How ironic!<BR>
<BR>
It pains me to note that as other nations and states are<BR>
fighting about partitioning and sharing the Internet (the<BR>
ultimate resource) we are still busy fighting about and<BR>
partitioning "ancestral" land. <BR>
<BR>
I want to be the first one to stand accused for having<BR>
surrendered my country to a small group of politicians who<BR>
seem determined to drive the remaining little sense of our<BR>
nationhood out of our minds. And I want also want to remind<BR>
each of us, that it is time reclaim our right to be Kenyan<BR>
- the Pride of Africa? Each of us must take up this<BR>
challenge in their own little way (use your business,<BR>
networks, friends on both sides, influence, whatever) in<BR>
order to pull us away from that point of no return.<BR>
<BR>
Sorry Alice i now this is not ICT but I just didnt know how<BR>
important Kenya was until i stepped out of it after Dec<BR>
31st 2007 and really needed to ventilate abit.<BR>
<BR>
walu.<BR>
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--- waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> I concur with your suggestions Njeri. It's unfortunate to<BR>
> lose<BR>
> hosting the ICANN meeting in November but let's try and<BR>
> make the<BR>
> best of it.<BR>
><BR>
> Kind Regards,<BR>
> Waudo<BR>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:59:52 +0300, "Njeri Rionge"<BR>
> <njeri.rionge@igniteco<BR>
> nsulting.co.ke> said:<BR>
><BR>
> Colleagues,<BR>
> Kenya needs to get the decisions around the National<BR>
> Coalition<BR>
> or whatever the solution agreed upon as soon as<BR>
> possible.<BR>
> ICANN is limited on planning time as regards managing<BR>
> the<BR>
> possible insecurity of holding a meeting in a location<BR>
> where<BR>
> security is a concern for the larger internet<BR>
> community. In<BR>
> fact this should be said the other way, we cannot<BR>
> (ICANN) risk<BR>
> having a meeting in a location where the internet<BR>
> community<BR>
> will not attend, due to the current status which today<BR>
> seems<BR>
> not clear since the media itself has now been quiet on<BR>
> the<BR>
> possible security issue, although indicates a possible<BR>
> forward<BR>
> improvement which is not indicative of stability etc.<BR>
> ICANN<BR>
> public meetings are very critical in engaging<BR>
> participants<BR>
> from an Internationalization perspective. Therefore,<BR>
> the<BR>
> decision for the cancellation was based on the turn of<BR>
> events<BR>
> that took place in Kenyan.<BR>
> So, like Alice I am hopeful that we can at list host<BR>
> the 10th<BR>
> Anniversary Internet party which can possibly be held<BR>
> away<BR>
> from the actual ICANN conference and broadcasted to the<BR>
> rest<BR>
> of the world from Kenya, although they are no<BR>
> guarantees. This<BR>
> is harder to do and in fact affects budgets etc.<BR>
> This said, the party was all planned for the Kenya<BR>
> meeting<BR>
> this November 2008. Which currently has been scheduled<BR>
> to<BR>
> happen in another unannounced location. I am hoping<BR>
> that a<BR>
> country in the Sub Sahara will put in a bid quickly<BR>
> enough,<BR>
> otherwise we will hold the meeting in a location that<BR>
> has<BR>
> already held this meeting before....<BR>
> Njeri,<BR>
> On 2/5/08 8:35 AM, "alice" <alice@apc.org> wrote:<BR>
> > Hi All<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Despite our current troubles we still hope that<BR>
> ICANN will<BR>
> choose Kenya<BR>
> > to celebrate its birthday at the ICANN Africa meeting<BR>
> scheduled for<BR>
> > November 2008.<BR>
> > Note dates for this years IGF have changed. Now<BR>
> taking place<BR>
> in December.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > alice<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > -------- Original Message --------<BR>
> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Internet Governance:<BR>
> ICANN,<BR>
> Security And<BR>
> > Nation States<BR>
> > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:48:23 +0100<BR>
> > From: Anne-Rachel Inné <annerachel@gmail.com><BR>
> > Reply-To: africann@afrinic.net<BR>
> > To: africann@afrinic.net<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > Intellectual Property Watch<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > 28 January 2008<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > Internet Governance: ICANN, Security And Nation<BR>
> States<BR>
> ><BR>
> > By Monika Ermert for /Intellectual Property Watch/<BR>
> > The future of the Internet Corporation for Assigned<BR>
> Names<BR>
> and Numbers<BR>
> > (ICANN) will remain an important topic in Internet<BR>
> governance in 2008,<BR>
> > the tenth anniversary of the private global<BR>
> coordination<BR>
> body for<BR>
> > Internet addresses and domain names.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Yet Internet governance experts also expect security<BR>
> in its<BR>
> different<BR>
> > facets to be on the rise in Internet governance<BR>
> debates and<BR>
> point to the<BR>
> > further growing interest of nation states in<BR>
> exercising<BR>
> their sovereign<BR>
> > governance rights in cyberspace. And it is<BR>
> increasingly the<BR>
> case that<BR>
> > governance of the Internet can affect access to<BR>
> online<BR>
> content.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > The Internet Governance Forum (IGF)<BR>
> > [1]<<A HREF="http://www.intgovforum.org/index.htm">http://www.intgovforum.org/index.htm</A>> organised<BR>
> by the<BR>
> United Nations -<BR>
> > which in December will hold its third gathering in<BR>
> New Delhi<BR>
> - likely<BR>
> > will see more issues related to cybercriminality,<BR>
> anonymity<BR>
> and privacy,<BR>
> > said Jeanette Hofmann, researcher at the Centre for<BR>
> Analysis<BR>
> of Risk and<BR>
> > Regulation at the London School of Economics, and at<BR>
> the<BR>
> > Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin für Sozialforschung, and<BR>
> member<BR>
> of the IGF<BR>
> > Advisory Group.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > New ICANN Board Chairman Peter Dengate Thrush<BR>
> announced a<BR>
> "busy year"<BR>
> ><BR>
> <BR>
><BR>
[2]<http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-03jan08.ht<BR>
> m> and a<BR>
> > "birthday party" to take place at the annual meeting<BR>
> of<BR>
> ICANN, which<BR>
> > will be held not in the United States but in Africa<BR>
> in<BR>
> November 2008.<BR>
> > The location for the birthday party may be seen as a<BR>
> small<BR>
> symbol for<BR>
> > ICANN's emphasis on its declared internationality. It<BR>
> has<BR>
> been the<BR>
> > United States' privileged position in ICANN and root<BR>
> server<BR>
> oversight<BR>
> > that gave the primary original impulse for the<BR>
> Internet<BR>
> governance<BR>
> > debate that has evolved so much over the past few<BR>
> years.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Weakening US Influence over Internet?<BR>
> ><BR>
> > More and more governments have called for change in<BR>
> the<BR>
> oversight<BR>
> > structure for this tiny yet core part of the Internet<BR>
> and<BR>
> will call for<BR>
> > that again in the newly launched consultation of the<BR>
> US<BR>
> Commerce<BR>
> > Department National Telecommunications and<BR>
> Information<BR>
> Administration<BR>
> > (NTIA) on "The Continued Transition of the Technical<BR>
> Coordination and<BR>
> > Management of the Internet's Domain Name and<BR>
> Addressing<BR>
> System."<BR>
> ><BR>
> > The consultation (deadline for statements 15<BR>
> February) is<BR>
> part of the<BR>
> > midterm review of the "Joint Project Agreement (JPA)"<BR>
> - the<BR>
> current<BR>
><BR>
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