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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><FONT color=#000000>I have been following this very interesting debate. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><FONT color=#000000>Harry says in response to David that:-</FONT> </FONT></FONT><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT color=#000080>neither the Government nor the Media Council should do this audit. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT color=#000000>David had suggested:- </FONT>'Our suggestion remains, let MCK do the audit, otherwise we'll be accused of creating in</FONT>stitutions just to kill them'. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT color=#000000>In my humble opinion there </FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000>could</FONT> be two or even more audits but at least one would NEED to be <STRONG><U>commissioned</U></STRONG> but not necessarily done by the MCK. If it is commissioined by the MCK with government backing (and conducted as Harry suggests by independent and credible researchers/professionals) this presupposes that it (the audit) will recieve its (MCK) complete and unalloyed support so that the findings and possibly recommendations, when they do come out, would hopefully get fair reception and possibly use. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="garamond, new york, times, serif">It is possible also even for KICTANET on behalf of the ICT community to seek support to commission an audit as well. This one could be stilted towards handhelds so that the full extent of the implication and use of these tools could be attempted and future scenarios constructed for the preservation and maintenance of both individual and collective rights and public order using these tools. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>David Aduda<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> harry@africanedevelopment.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [kictanet] Fibre Optic Cables</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear colleagues,</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Having followed the debate on the media audit, I'm convinced there is consensus that it's important that we review how the media handled the elections, before, during and after. That is perfectly in order. What's alarming is the insistence that the government should do it, whereas there is an organisation, the Media Council, whose mandate includes checking how the media operates with a view to protect the producers and consumers of news.We've expressed our views as media practitioners about our disdain for a governmental audit and Dr Bitange knows about that. Our suggestion remains, let MCK do the audit, otherwise we'll be accused of creating institutions just to kill them.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But it must be noted vilifying the media won't do when all of us know where the problem lies. It's human to take an easy route out of a crisis. The ministry of Information and Communications must not fall into that trap.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Finally, I associate myself with a view expressed earlier by one contributor, namely, moderation in this discourse.</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">David Aduda</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Nation Media Group</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----------</SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">kictanet-bounces+daduda=nation.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of bitange@jambo.co.ke</SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Reply To:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">bitange@jambo.co.ke</SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:36 PM</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">David Aduda</SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Re: [kictanet] Fibre Optic Cables</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">We are working towards that. We need private sector to push these developments. Government is not good in business. We can only intervene to facilitate especially the small enterprises.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">-----Original Message-----</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">From: "Eric Osiakwan" <eric@afrispa.org></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:22:38 </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">To:bitange@jambo.co.ke</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Cc:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fibre Optic Cables</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Nothing against all the big guns establishing in Kenya but what about a long term objective </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">of building our own version of Akamai,googles, Limelights etc. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Dont forget the real winners in the knowledge era are those who produce their own not use </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">others. So our long term objective should be to have our own alongside others because it is </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">a free market economy. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Eric here</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">---------- Original Message ----------------------------------</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">From: Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Reply-To: michuki@swiftkenya.com</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:14:04 +0300</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>> Good news is that Etisalat (our partners in Teams) in conjunction with</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>> Akamai are building an Internet Point of Presence (POP) in Fujaira thus</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>> eliminating long distance needs for Internet in this region. </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">></SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>The long term objective should be to have the likes of Akamai, Limelight </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>and google collocating their nodes in Kenya . This will essentially keep </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>at least 50% of our Internet traffic local.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>Regards,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">></SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Monaco">>Michuki.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Monaco size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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