<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Dear Mr. Joseph,<br><br>At the rate this agreement is going you will have disenfranchised enough Kenyan's then what will it be worth.<br><div> </div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>KEnya<div> </div><div>Tel: +254722511225<div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Michael Joseph <MJoseph@Safaricom.co.ke><br>To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 12:22:51 PM<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The NewFrontierinTransformingPublic Services -
29th November 2007<br><br>Actually the agreement has been reached by both parties. We are just<br>waiting for some outstanding items to be concluded.<br><br>Michael<br> <br>CEO<br>Safaricom Limited<br> <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>On Behalf Of John Walubengo<br>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:14 PM<br>To: Michael Joseph<br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The<br>NewFrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007<br><br>my quick two cents.<br><br>1. On high-costs: 'High-cost' is actually NOT relative-<br>having been
defined by UN/ITU as the cost of service as a %<br>of the Gross National Income per Capita. (ITU Digital<br>Access Indices ( ITU News, 2003). In simpler times, are <br>the citizens continuously faced with the 'difficult' choice<br>between communicating and buying their next meal? i.e if<br>the cost of communication results in their missing their<br>next meal then the service is quite expensive.<br><br>2. On Commercial Agreements between Operators: I believe<br>the operators have the 1st privilege to reach an agreement.<br>However, the Regulator reserves the right to interven in<br>the event that the agreement is not being reached soon<br>enought.<br><br>walu.<br><br><br>--- Alex Gakuru <<a ymailto="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com" href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it<br>> has everything<br>> to do with them in fulfilling
their legal mandate to<br>> protect consumers<br>> especially where outcry are so loud it break many high<br>> glass offices<br>> blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating<br>> otherwise. "In its<br>> letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission<br>> of Kenya<br>> director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of<br>> practising<br>> anti-competitive behaviour in the market -especially in<br>> the Short<br>> Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business."<br>><br><a href="http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&I" target="_blank">http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&I</a><br>temid=5810<br>> <br>> High costs are relative so allow me to pass that<br>> questions<br>> <br>> <br>> On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke"
href="mailto:MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke">MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>> > It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a<br>> commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well<br>> aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of<br>> getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the<br>> same issue.<br>> ><br>> > I do not know what high costs you are referring to.<br>> ><br>> > Michael<br>> ><br>> > CEO<br>> > Safaricom Limited<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From:<br>><br>kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>><br>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru<br>> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM<br>> > To: Michael Joseph<br>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New<br>> FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November<br>> 2007<br>> ><br>> > Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a<br>> wish. Until you<br>> > finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let<br>> high costs bite<br>> > deeper and deeper into our pockets.<br>> ><br>> > If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would<br>> have happened 2 months ago.<br>> ><br>> > Alex<br>> ><br>> > On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke"
href="mailto:MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke">MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the<br>> agreements to open up the<br>> > > SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We<br>> hope that this will be<br>> > > done soon.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Regards,<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Michael<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > CEO<br>> > ><br>> > > Safaricom Limited<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ________________________________<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > From:<br>><br>kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke"
href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> > ><br>><br>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=<a ymailto="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke">safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>> On<br>> > > Behalf Of robert yawe<br>> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM<br>> > > To: Michael Joseph<br>> > ><br>> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New<br>> Frontier<br>> > > inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Hi,<br>> > ><br>> > > I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to<br>> CDMA numbers. Who is<br>> > >
responsible for making sure that we are not blocked<br>> from sending messages<br>> > > across networks.<br>> > ><br>> > > Regards<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Robert Yawe<br>> > > KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>> > > Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>> > > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>> > > KEnya<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Tel: +254722511225<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ----- Original Message ----<br>> > > From: "<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke"
href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>> > > To: robert yawe <<a ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>> > > Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>; KICTAnet ICT Policy<br>> Discussions<br>> > > <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> > > Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New<br>> Frontier in<br>> > > TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007<br>> > ><br>> > > Dear Yawe,<br>> > > Welcome to KICTAnet. Just wanted to know how you<br>> got to know that<br>> > > Ministry of
Information, CCK and ICT Board did not<br>> act on the<br>> > > Safaricom/TKL sms issue? Do you know the mandate of<br>> these "bodies"? My<br>> > > friend, in the past one year did you not come across<br>> the mention of the<br>> > > ICT Bill? I really want to be of help to you but<br>> first I want to<br>> > > understand where you are coming from.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > Regards<br>> > ><br>> > > Bitange Ndemo.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > > Hi All,<br>> > > ><br>> > > > I am new to this mailing list and would like to<br>> start by saying<br>> > > something<br>> > > > about myself.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > I am an
Information Technology specialist with<br>> over 15 years experience<br>> > > > which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other<br>> OS's that exist only on<br>> > > > 5.25" floppy disks. My area of specialisation is<br>> in design &<br>> > > > implementation of local and wide area networks.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this<br>> is the next frontier but<br>> > > > it is shocking, as usual, that we are not<br>> embracing the technology or<br>> > > even<br>> > > > working to develop the necessary legislation to<br>> make it flourish. AS<br>> > > many<br>> > > > web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we<br>> are designing heavy<br>> > > > sites that have no intelligence to identify the<br>>
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