hi,<br>this is to confirm that there will be a Kictanet cocktail on friday august 24 at Jacaranda- co sponsored by CCK<br>the one on 22nd is by CCK, and will be at the Grand Rengency where the CTO conference is taking place<br>at the cocktail on friday, PS Ndemo will introduce the ICT board, talk about their mandate and what we can expect of them and what we should not expect,<br><br>at the same time, KICTANet will honor its members who have made acheivements since the begining of the year,<br>will update you with the list of the names,<br>hope to see you there<br>regards<br>becky<br><br><br><br><b><i>charles nduati <charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Hi All,<br><br>Can someone confirm whether the earlier announced cocktail of 22/08 is till on at jacaranda.<br><br>Charles<br><br> <br>CHARLES N. NDUATI<br>BUSINESS MANAGER<br>JKUAT ENTERPRISES
LTD<br>JOMO KENYATTA UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY<br>JUJA MAIN CAMPUS, THIKA<br>P. O. BOX 79324-00200<br>NAIROBI, KENYA<br>TEL: 254-067-52420 OR 254-067-52711 FAX: 254-067-52438<br>MOBILE:254-722728815<br>EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk<br>www.jkuat.ac.ke<br><br>----- Original Message ----<br>From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke><br>To: charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk<br>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 7:20:16 PM<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Kenya Communications Amendment Bill<br><br>Dear Alex,<br>There is no crisis or tension in the ICT legislative process. I was<br>pointing out the opportunities that are available to you in ensuring that<br>the piece of legislation you want is passed. As far as I am concerned all<br>of us have representation in parliament and we should utilize that<br>opportunity instead of blaming the Government.<br><br>The Safari Park proposals shall be
given to the MPs. The Thursday date<br>was set anticipating that parliament will go on recess. Now that they are<br>not going on recess, they have proposed August 30th and 31st. We are<br>looking for resources for a venue in Mombasa and shall revert to you.<br><br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Bitange.<br><br><br><br><br>> May I suggest we ask Eng. Rege to help diffuse ICT<br>> tensions now bottling up? Borrow his experince on<br>> dealing with government, stakeholders, steakholders,<br>> and others? Just thinking aloud and welcome comments.<br>><br>> Alex<br>><br>> --- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:<br>><br>>> Thanks Alex i appreciate your response your<br>>> arguments are valid though<br>>><br>>> On 8/17/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com><br>>> wrote:<br>>> > Barrack,<br>>> ><br>>> > My apologies if I appeared to harass the Permanent<br>>> > Secretary. The gist
of my, I believe justified,<br>>> > request for information was to know the fate of<br>>> our<br>>> > Safari Park contributions considering that the<br>>> > expected legislators could not come because of<br>>> said<br>>> > Parlimentary Procedures.<br>>> ><br>>> > I needed to know whether we should assume that<br>>> those<br>>> > contributions we made needed to be repeated should<br>>> an<br>>> > opportunity to meet with the Committee present<br>>> itself<br>>> > especially if the ministry could not incorporate<br>>> them.<br>>> ><br>>> > I interpret Dr. Ndemo's advice as "they have them,<br>>> > because we gave them but now lobby hard yourselves<br>>> to<br>>> > ensure your interests are captured"<br>>> ><br>>> > I am sufficiently pleased with his reply, his<br>>> > voluntary additional
information, and await<br>>> > confirmation on how the committee sees best fit to<br>>> > receive any outstanding stakeholders' concerns<br>>> on<br>>> > the bill as promised today.<br>>> ><br>>> > Please understand that I consider myself of the<br>>> issue<br>>> > focussed, not the person, nature and I would<br>>> seriously<br>>> > err to substitute any clause, error, commission,<br>>> or<br>>> > omission with "Bitange Ndemo":)<br>>> ><br>>> > Have a laughly day!<br>>> ><br>>> > Alex<br>>> ><br>>> > --- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com><br>>> wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> > > Good effort bwana Ndemo, Alex i bet you<br>>> understand<br>>> > > how our legislators<br>>> > > operate take it easy on bwana Ndemo, bwana Ps<br>>> try<br>>> > > your level
best to ensure<br>>> > > that Stakeholder expectations are met, so far i<br>>> > > guess you deserve a pat<br>>> > > Regards<br>>> > ><br>>> > > On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai@yahoo.com><br>>> > > wrote:<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Dr.Ndemo<br>>> > > > This information is very necessary and<br>>> important.<br>>> > > Kindly could you also<br>>> > > > outline to the level or rather phases<br>>> pertaining<br>>> > > the same sir.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > This gives us the the auditable elements of<br>>> the<br>>> > > process for the few whom<br>>> > > > may not be aware of the process and yet they<br>>> may<br>>> > > want to shout loundest..<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > >
><br>>> > > > All is about the welfare of our countr<br>>> y(personal<br>>> > > sentiments and not about<br>>> > > > who shouts loundest and in some situations or<br>>> > > least solutions. ICT is all<br>>> > > > bout solutions and world wide tested and<br>>> proven<br>>> > > best practices)<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Regards<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > *bitange@jambo.co.ke* wrote:<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Dear Alex,<br>>> > > > I tried to explain how parliament works<br>>> earlier in<br>>> > > the week. We cannot<br>>> > > > revise the bill here. We have taken the<br>>> proposals<br>>> > > to the committee for<br>>> > > > consideration.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > >
Luckily today the committee sumoned me to<br>>> > > parliament. They want to have a<br>>> > > > stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or<br>>> > > Thursday next week in Mombasa.<br>>> > > > I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any<br>>> changes<br>>> > > now must go through the<br>>> > > > committee since the bill belongs to<br>>> parliament.<br>>> > > You have this window to<br>>> > > > make the necessary changes. The safari Park<br>>> > > proposals are already with<br>>> > > > them but they may decide that they do not want<br>>> to<br>>> > > include them. This is<br>>> > > > where we need the stakeholders to push.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > I hope you do not leave this window of<br>>> opportunity<br>>> > > to pass and blame us<br>>> >
> > later.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Regards<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > Ndemo.<br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > ><br>>> > > > > Dr. Ndemo,<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on<br>>> > > information<br>>> > > > > and belief, we were coming to meet the<br>>> > > Parliament<br>>> > > > > Committee. We understood your at the venue<br>>> > > explanation<br>>> > > > > why they could not come.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > However,<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > Would you be in a position to inform<br>>> > > stakeholders what<br>>> >
> > > to expect of our Safari Park contributions<br>>> on<br>>> > > the<br>>> > > > > Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007?<br>>> i.e.<br>>> > > does<br>>> > > > > the ministry have an "updated"<br>>> > > version-considerate of<br>>> > > > > expressed concerns? I am made to understand<br>>> that<br>>> > > a<br>>> > > > > Bill's mover (who in this case is the<br>>> Minister)<br>>> > > is<br>>> > > > > allowed to amend it anytime.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > This also would not only help us know where<br>>> our<br>>> > > > > concerns lay but it would also help us take<br>>> > > informed<br>>> > > > > engagements with the Energy and<br>>> Communications<br>>> > > > >
Committee.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > I request for this information in view of<br>>> your<br>>> > > emailed<br>>> > > > > informative note advising stakeholders on<br>>> the<br>>> > > law<br>>> > > > > making processes, advising on the steps,<br>>> when<br>>> > > and<br>>> > > > > where to engaging parliamentary committees<br>>> in<br>>> > > the<br>>> > > > > process.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > Hope to hear from you.<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > Sincerely,<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > Alex<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > > --- Brian Longwe wrote:<br>>> > > > ><br>>> > > > >> Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for
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