Hi Walu,<br>This is a Contentious issue, do we have a facility that can allow us to vote on this list?, maybe the issue could be adressed in a better way if there existed such a facility. I guess Lizette is right "democratically"
<br>Those are my thoughts<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Lizette Kraft</b> <<a href="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com">lfkraft@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Hi Walu,</div>
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<div>No one ever had the thought that there wasn't other talent out there, but considering she was a founder of the organisation or whatever it is known as, should have at least given it some consideration don't you think. As I said, we don't know how the board was put together, whether through nomination or whatever, (some of us didn't see this at all to even comment on), but besides that what other factors where there that overrode the process???? It is fair to be transparent about this don't you think?? I am not dismissing what the other members have said and I agree that everyone should continue to support the cause, but some of these things happened in the most strangest of ways and no one asked any questions!! Again, I ask, is this the Kenyan way!!! (In case you didn't know, I am fully Kenyan - born and bred!!).
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<div>thanks and appreciate the responses although they haven't answered my curiosity and concern.</div>
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<div>regards</div><div><span class="e" id="q_1145ec80afa39a85_1">
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">David Sparrow Malaba</b> <<a href="mailto:sdmalaba@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sdmalaba@yahoo.com
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Dear Alex,<br>ICT is wide and the most important sub-sectors need<br>representation on the board.. not criticizing though!!
<br><br>Thanks<br>MalabaS. David<br>Computer Society of Kenya<br><br><br><br>--- Lucy Kimani <<a href="mailto:lkimani@comnews.co.ke" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">lkimani@comnews.co.ke
</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Barrack,<br>><br>> True that, but while we acknowledge that the
<br>> industry and CCK have been<br>> talking for a while now, and do have a cosy thing<br>> going, we agreed on this<br>> forum that the Consumer has been missing from the<br>> table. What I would have<br>
> been happy to see was a strong consumer advocate,<br>> and while it may not<br>> necesarily be Alex, at least somebody who can<br>> clearly be identified as the<br>> consumer advocate should have been included on the
<br>> ICT Board.<br>><br>> Richard Bell - TESPOK<br>> Catherine Adeya - Coordinator of KICTANet (Kenya ICT<br>> Action Network).<br>> Peter Kimacia - Chief Executive of ICTvillage.com<br>> Kevit Desai - ICT Federation
<br>> Kiptiness from CCK.<br>><br>> My pesa nane...<br>><br>> LK<br>><br>> > I agree with Walu, i urge those who not appointed<br>> including walu to<br>> > keep up with the good work they are doing for the
<br>> sector the real<br>> > leaders at times are always in the audience<br>> ><br>> > On 8/11/07, John Walubengo <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>> >> Lizette,
<br>> >><br>> >> FE's contribution to ICT in Kenya is quite<br>> exceptional and<br>> >> outstanding. However, when it comes to sitting<br>> on<br>> >> non-elective boards, other factors tend to
<br>> override.<br>> >><br>> >> The legislation (Gazette Notice) for the Kenya<br>> ICT board<br>> >> and other similar boards accross the world leaves<br>> the<br>> >> search and appoint procedures at the pleasure of
<br>> the<br>> >> President and his respective minister. Now, in a<br>> market<br>> >> with excessive ICT and related talent like Kenya,<br>> one can<br>> >> only understand if some qualified members miss
<br>> out<br>> >> (including me maybe? ;-)<br>> >><br>> >> Nevertheless, what matters is if the new board<br>> can deliver<br>> >> the anticipated benefits within reasonable<br>> timeframes. And
<br>> >> I believe the six or seven of them will not<br>> succeed without<br>> >> the input the likes of FE et al.<br>> >><br>> >> walu.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>
<br>> >> --- Lizette Kraft <<a href="mailto:lfkraft@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">lfkraft@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> > Congratulations to all the Board members!!
<br>> >> ><br>> >> > On the other hand, It's amazing how Dr.
<br>> Florence Etta was<br>> >> > not given the<br>> >> > opportunity to be nominated and/or participate<br>> on the<br>> >> > Board!!! As one of<br>> >> > the key founders of KICTANET and the name and
<br>> having<br>> >> > contributed<br>> >> > extensively to ICT as a whole in everyway!!!!<br>> Have we<br>> >> > forgotten so fast!!!<br>> >> > With no disrespect intended to anyone, but I
<br>> must ask -<br>> >> > Is this the Kenyan<br>> >> > way of doing things??? I am sure most of you<br>> will agree<br>> >> > that at least<br>> >> > Florence should have been nominated or asked to
<br>> >> > participate as a board<br>> >> > member. It was then upto her to decide if she<br>> was<br>> >> > interested to or not, and<br>> >> > of course then, the voting or whatever would
<br>> have been<br>> >> > done to determine the<br>> >> > members, or so I would think. Is this what<br>> everyone<br>> >> > agreed to?? would be<br>> >> > good to know.
<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Sorry but its always hard for people to be<br>> upfront,<br>> >> > truthful and bold enough<br>> >> > to ask and I think it's only fair to raise
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> this. What<br>> >> > method<br>> >> > was used to select the board members???<br>> Important for<br>> >> > all to be informed.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Thanks to all
<br>> >> > best regards<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > On 8/10/07, Rebecca Wanjiku
<br>> <<a href="mailto:rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com</a>><br>> >> > wrote:<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > in case you were wondering who are the other
<br>> board
<br>> >> > members, here the names<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > The other members are:<br>> >> > > Richard Bell<br>
> >> > > Catherine Adeya<br>> >> > > Peter Kimacia<br>> >> > > Kevit Desai<br>> >> > > Kiptiness from CCK.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Getting a board nowadays is very difficult as
<br>> you must<br>> >> > take into account<br>> >> > > many issues. I hope we got the bast here.<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > >
<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Tel. 254 720 318 925<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > blog:<a href="http://beckyit.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://beckyit.blogspot.com/</a><br>> >> > >
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