Bill, You may be just right and in the process, we stand higher chances of getting the ICT laws passed to send these "hackers" to jail.<br><br>Alex<br><br><b><i>Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:14:05 +0300<br>From: "Bill Kagai" <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable<br>To: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com><br><br> <br>William Ruto website was working fine..when I bumped into it this morning..now it has been re-directed to the KACC website...<br><br>No wonder these guys are avoiding ICT foras. Any slightly distorted media can cost them jobs... <br><br>I see a dialogue entry point..by collectively working together with the August house members to sort out this persistent website beef they have had to keep with....from Kalonzo
Musyoka and now to Ruto..<br><br>I would not touch ICTs with ten yard pole if I were a politician...I can say... <br><br>Bill<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/18/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Alex Gakuru</b> <<a href="mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com">alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Thanks Bill,<br><br>I found websites for hon. Julia Ojiambo, hon. William Ruto, hon. Kalonzo Musyoka, hon. Raila Odinga, hon. Najib Balala, hon. Uhuru Kenyatta but did not succeed for hon. Musalia Mudavadi, hon. Joseph Nyaga, and Nazlin Umar. I deliberataly avoided looking for hon. Mutahi Kagwe's website. <br><br>Noticeably, Uhuru Kenyatta is ".ke" and registered his domain in May 2005. The others have dot coms and dot net. The oldest was created in June and two were registered two days apart in September last
year. <br><br><<a href="http://www.kenic.or.ke/cgi-bin/kenic/whois" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.kenic.or.ke/cgi-bin/kenic/whois</a>><br> <br>domain: <a href="http://UHURUKENYATTA.CO.KE" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">UHURUKENYATTA.CO.KE</a><br> created: 2006/05/05 <br> changed: 2007/05/10<br> expiry: 2008/05/05<br><br>from <<a href="http://www.whois.net/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.whois.net/</a>><br><br> Domain Name: <a href="http://RAILA2007.COM" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> RAILA2007.COM</a><br> Updated Date: 15-nov-2006<br> Creation Date: 12-jun-2006<br> Expiration Date: 12-jun-2008<br>
<br> Domain Name: <a href="http://WILLIAMRUTTO.COM" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">WILLIAMRUTTO.COM</a><br> Updated Date: 20-nov-2006<br> Creation Date: 01-sep-2006<br> Expiration Date: 01-sep-2007 <br><br> Domain Name: <a href="http://KALONZOMUSYOKAFORPRESIDENT.COM" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> KALONZOMUSYOKAFORPRESIDENT.COM</a><br> Updated Date: 16-feb-2007<br> Creation Date: 03-sep-2006<br> Expiration Date: 03-sep-2007<br> <br> Domain Name: <a href="http://electjulia.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> ELECTJULIA.COM</a><br> Updated Date: 14-feb-2007<br> Creation Date: 01-feb-2007<br> Expiration Date: 01-feb-2009<br><br> Domain Name: <a href="http://NAJIBBALALA.NET" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> NAJIBBALALA.NET</a><br> Updated Date: 14-mar-2007<br> Creation Date: 14-mar-2007<br> Expiration Date: 14-mar-2008<br><br>It was quite interesting, thanks.<br><br>Alex<br><br><div><div><span class="e" id="q_1129f5777c1f732e_1"> <span class="gmail_quote">On 5/18/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"> Bill Kagai</b> <<a href="mailto:mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke</a>> wrote:</span></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><span class="e" id="q_1129f5777c1f732e_3"> Interesting debate..but I beg to disagree with Muriuki and others who<br>toe this thought process.....a quick google drill shows that the joke<br>is on us. I checked randomly on some of your
anticipated<br>guests...and... <br><br>1. Ruto William Samoei<br>Education – BSc. Hons (UON)<br>Born – 1966<br>Email - <a href="mailto:info@williamrutto.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">info@williamrutto.com</a> <br>URL. <a href="http://www.williamrutto.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.williamrutto.com</a> <br><br>Verdict – Cannot be ICT illiterate<br><br>2. Eng. Raila Odinga<br>Eduction - M.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), University of Magdeburg<br>Born – 1945<br>Email. <a href="mailto:railaodinga@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> railaodinga@yahoo.com </a><br>URL. <a href="http://www.raila2007.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.raila2007.com/</a><br><br>Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate..actually used a laptop launching his vision.. <br><br>3. Najib Balala<br>Born – 1967<br>Education
- Business Administration Leadership, Harvard University <br>Urban Management, University of Toronto<br>Email – <a href="mailto:najib@mombasa.co.ke" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">najib@mombasa.co.ke</a><br>URL – <a href="http://www.najibbalala.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> www.najibbalala.net</a><br><br>Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate. <br><br>For those doing work/research..Why don't you check...<br>- is ICT community possibly alienating itself from the rest??<br>-what were these chaps avoiding by evading the dabate??<br>-and other questions...<br> <br> Then you will realise that these chaps are much cleverer than we think...<br><br>Bill<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: kictanet-bounces+research=<a href="mailto:mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke </a><br>[mailto:<a
href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke</a> ] On<br>Behalf Of Muriuki Mureithi<br>Sent: 18 May 2007 11:55<br>To: Bill Kagai <br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable<br><br>Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it shows the<br>dynamism of the ICT fraternity .<br><br>The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that either they are <br>not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them consider<br>significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we in the<br>ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them let us roll <br>our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the issues,<br>the significance and why they
matter.<br><br>This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we shall<br>have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario on the <br>presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine who to<br>invite was based on government of national unity versus the opposition as<br>broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party elections <br>we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round .<br><br>The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place the ICT<br>agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential aspirants<br> that ICT is an national issue<br><br><br><br>Muriuki Mureithi<br>Team leader<br>ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project<br>KICTANET<br><br><br>--<br>--<br>With Kind Regards,<br>Bildad Kagai<br>MD - MediaCorp Limited <br>Suite B2, Tetu Apartments<br>StateHouse Avenue<br>P. O. Box
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