Fiona,<br><br>Is this forwarded message stating Sammy's personal, <font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font>or NairobiNet, TESPOK, or is it your own take? I am a little mixed up because Sammy could just as well have posted it himself, you could have signed it on behalf of TESPOK?<br><br>Find it unusual because one would have expected a top official at http://www.tespok.co.ke/bearers.html to sign it. <br><br>Kindly clarify because I wish to respond and I want to be clear first. <br><br>Alex<br> <br><b><i>Fiona Asonga <tespok@tespok.co.ke></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1250"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <o:SmartTagType
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10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;">Sammy Buruchara <<a href="mailto:buruchara@mac.com">buruchara@mac.com</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; font-weight: bold;">Date: </span></font></b><font face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;">April 27, 2007 5:18:27 PM GMT+03:00</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; font-weight: bold;">To: </span></font></b><font face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica;">Kenya ICT Action Network - KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@kictanet.or.ke</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font
color="black" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span></font></b><b><font face="Helvetica" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; font-weight: bold;">Re: [kictanet] Day 3 of 10: Day 3 - Hierarchy of IGO & ISPs</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I find the
conclusion of this report about the IGO and ISP quite ignorant of historical facts:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></span>- The government from the onset of the Internet Industry was reluctant to license ISPs because of TKL.<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></span>At the time only TKL had International Gateway License.<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Even 5 years after giving them ISP license, ISPs were still not allowed to setup IG operations. CCK used to visit ISPs
premises routinely to check if they have illegal VSAT. State security was usually the excuse.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">International bandwidth from TKL was then US$8000 per 64kbs half circuit. Naturally this was somehow passed on to the client.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></span>- ISPs got the license 5 years later (2000) JamboNet was set up but still ISPs (even GSM operators) had to go through TKL for all International bandwidth whether through JamboNet or dedicated circuit. Dedicated circuit was made prohibitively higher to force ISPs to use Jambonet.<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></span>- It took Tespok campaigning and even harassment by CCK of Tespok leadership before CCK could concede to actually open up the Telecoms Market in 2004.<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tespok went to the Tribunal and won a case with CCK forcing them to allow operators setup International gateways. ISPs paid for this court case which cost millions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Unfortunately the authorities had other ways of permanently preventing ISPs from
ever getting an International Gateway facility: Licensing fees. To setup an International gateway license the license fees was and still is Ksh 16 million. Naturally most ISPs could not afford this. In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Uganda</st1:place></st1:country-region>, it is a paltry US$1000.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The beneficiaries of the liberalization victories were therefore not ISP but other investors who previously were not anywhere near the industry play. So came up KDN, Jamii, and all other BOGs. In fact only UUNET recently joined the group after much lobbying.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The market may judge what they may about the ISP, but it is good to know that from the beginning, the govt used unusually great energy to make sure they do not succeed because they happened to threaten their favorate baby, TKL.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Now if the ISPs do not add value and only increase cost, the reason? Your guess is as good as mine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The rest is history.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sammy Buruchara<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CEO - NairobiNet Online<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:36 AM, John Walubengo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanx Alex for your comments on Day 1, for a moment I was<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">bracing myself for a 10 day Online monologue :-(! as<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">opposed to the planned Online dialogue. Incidentally,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">belated Comments on previous days themes shall remain<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">welcome - just click on the correct subject line and make<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">your appropriate contributions...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Anyway back to today's theme- The
Question of Internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Gateway Operators (IGO, the Wholesalers of Internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Bandwidth) vs Internet Service Providers (ISPs, the<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Retailers of Internet Bandwidth).<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The report recommends that seperation b/w IGO and ISPs be<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div>
<div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">dissolved.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>This is because the current structure<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Internet-> IGO -> ISP -> Consumers is considered<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">unnecessarily too long.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Apparently the ISP as we know them<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">today are not adding significant value - instead they are<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">adding
cost to the service and probably degraging the<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">quality of the Internet eventually delivered to the<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Customers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cutting down the middle-man (ISPs) may offset the costs and<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">while increasing the quality of the internet eventually<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">delivered to the Consumer.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Is this assumption true? Does<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">allowing IGO to directly deal with Consumer result in<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">cheaper Internet Services while improving on the quality of<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">the internet?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1 day on this theme, at the least, I do hope to get some<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">reactions at from any IGOs and ISPs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">walu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style="min-height: 14px;"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:
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