<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:lucida console,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Checkout, <br><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.kimathiinformationcentre.com">www.kimathiinformationcentre.com</a></span><br><br>some of the pages are still under construction like the forum,chat and guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-) <br><br>We reach out to the Easltands community with free ICT lessons<br>also we are a one stop E-centre.<br><br>We are in the process of organizing a <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">youth symposium</span> that will focus on preparing youth in creating business proposals,business plans and how to apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.<br><br>All keep y'all posted<br><div> <br>Best Regards, <br></div><font face="courier">Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri</font><font color="#0000ff"><font face="courier"> || +254 722 336754 ||</font> </font><div
style="font-family: lucida console,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com><br>To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?<br><br><div>well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when<br>their registration form had too many of what I thought were<br>personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how<br>they would secure my data...<br><br>Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and<br>running...so what do you mean when you say they are no<br>longer working?<br><br>walu.<br><br>--- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br>> Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very popular free<br>> internet-based <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sasanet.co.ke">www.sasanet.co.ke</a> is now no longer<br>> working? I
wonder why?<br>> <br>> /Alex<br>> <br>> Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: Alex, <br>> <br>> Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer<br>> setting in the country. The blog has very useful<br>> information that is not being shared with Kenyan<br>> consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld.<br>> Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key<br>> stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike. <br>> <br>> Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to<br>> authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I<br>> believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to<br>> use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very<br>> likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers<br>> are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that<br>> they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are<br>> supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to
"call<br>> back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or<br>> the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from<br>> Kenya as high as it is and with local providers beating<br>> their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service.<br>> What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US based<br>> customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling<br>> cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant prices. <br>> <br>> The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of no future<br>> support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very<br>> clear and after some digging around it appears that it<br>> referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services<br>> while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff<br>> competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and<br>> tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and that no<br>> one in their right mind would be willing to pay $3+
per<br>> minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small<br>> fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower<br>> rate. <br>> <br>> Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for<br>> Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce<br>> changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be<br>> communication providers. It is unthinkable that the<br>> government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady<br>> tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer.<br>> Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now<br>> recovering economy like ours raise the question whether<br>> the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil<br>> companies making several times over some nations GDP in<br>> profits and claiming that they are struggling themselves<br>> and offering the best prices possible. Price regulation<br>> in the industry is something that should be looked
into<br>> to further to try and strike a fair balance between<br>> consumers needs and investors return on equity. <br>> <br>> Mike<br>> <br>> On 2/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> Mike:<br>> <br>> Although this is a consumer issue, you may notice we have<br>> quite some domestic wars with the prevailing<br>> anti-consumer setting, <a target="_blank" href="http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/">http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/</a><br>> for example.<br>> <br>> By engaging foreign networks, I am afraid the ICT<br>> Consumers Association of Kenya could be considered acting<br>> ultra vires thus the Ministry of Information and<br>> Communications, CCK, and perhaps also Foreign Affairs are<br>> best suited to comment. <br>> <br>> Would a provocative question, like "why has a private US<br>> telco unilaterally cut-off communication from Kenya
to<br>> the US jeopardizing both a basic human right and the<br>> national outsourcing strategy" earn a quick response from<br>> government? <br>> <br>> rgds,<br>> <br>> Alex<br>> <br>> Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: As an after<br>> thought, this may mean calls dialed through this number<br>> which by itself is a very expensive option and which may<br>> reflect the effects of voip and lowered costs of<br>> international calls:<br>> <br>> Kenya 0-800-2201-15 (608) <br>> <br>> On 2/18/07, Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: <br>> Does anyone know why the below might be the case ? AT&T<br>> printed this in small print on bills sent to customer in<br>> January. Considering<br>> that AT&T is the largest telco in the US this is a<br>> serious issue :<br>> <br>> International Call
Origination: <br>> Effective March 1, 2007, our International Call<br>> Origination service will change. Current access<br>> numbers for calls originating internationally<br>> will change. Please visit att.com/dialing-guide <br>> to print the new dialing-guide for your reference;<br>> or call the number on your bill to order a new<br>> dialing guide. Calls from Kenya to US will<br>> no longer be supported. International to <br>> international calling from St. Martin will no <br>> longer be supported. Also, International<br>> service will be expanded to over 60 additional<br>> countries. To find out rates and countries where<br>> we provide service, please visit <br>> att.com/intl-rates.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kictanet mailing list<br>> kictanet@kictanet.or.ke<br>> <a
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