[kictanet] Day 1 Pre KIGF Online Discussion – Data Track

Wed Oct 14 22:09:44 EAT 2020

Now that you mention it, what really happened? Data on the site dates back
to 2017/8!

Was looking for utilisation of money set aside for Constituency Internet
Centres... couldn't find anything anywhere... Just wondering is it *SIRI
KALI?*

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:58 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 @Winfred Anyona <winfred.anyona at strathmore.edu>
>
> We should not tire calling for the revival of the Kenya Open Data
> Initiative by MoICT. By now we would be having open datasets for ML and
> driving inclusivity in AI.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:42 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> There is no denying where we are headed in as far as use of AI and how it
>> will use data (big and small)! Na hio ndio maendeleo (as MO1 would have
>> said)
>>
>> However, we need to weigh on the Good to Have Vs Should Have and this
>> might just open a Pandora box!
>>
>> *Good to Have*
>> The amount of good that can be harnessed from use of data through AI is
>> enormous. This ranges from medical diagnostics, through to law litigations,
>> to matters education, weather patterns etc. That data can be used to give
>> probably with an efficiency beyond the human mind.
>>
>> To weigh in on this, we also need to look at the HUMAN side of it! Can AI
>> with all its intricacies, given all possible data permutations truly mimic
>> the emotional, human side that decisions are mostly made or is the
>> eradication of this very human nature what we aim to achieve?
>>
>> *Should have*
>> Am aware that SHOULD is not the word we normally associate with when
>> comparing GOOD TO HAVE. The norm is MUST HAVE. I chose this word to be on
>> the middle ground so as not to appear to be forceful on it.
>>
>> Governments and people in power would be beating the war drums to have AI
>> mine all data of ever living, dead and to be born persons! The national
>> security card would definitely be pulled up!
>>
>> Whilst as citizens, we would definitely want to be living securely
>> knowing we are protected. However, if such data goes so deep as in
>> analysing very personal information that could be a cause of wars within
>> homes... would this be adding to the value of life?
>>
>> So GOOD TO HAVE Vs SHOULD HAVE...that's probably what I would sum it down
>> to!
>>
>> THK
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 4:43 PM Winfred Anyona via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Listers,
>>>
>>> Artificial Intelligence can be used to provide better access to public
>>> services for the most vulnerable.
>>>
>>> User-centered design should address the experiences and views of people,
>>> especially vulnerable populations, who may be negatively impacted by new
>>> technologies.
>>>
>>> The idea of including users in the design and testing of new products
>>> and services is not new. What is perhaps unusual is the notion that groups
>>> who may be negatively impacted by a technology should be involved in their
>>> design and methods of promotion and use. Some firms however, have begun
>>> to embrace this practice as a moral and business imperative.
>>>
>>> There are inventive approaches and methods in a range of industries
>>> that the developers and users of AI solutions could build on, including:
>>>
>>> ·         Identifying legitimate representative or proxy organizations
>>> to engage with.
>>>
>>> ·         Using technology to enable affected rights-holders to share
>>> grievances and experiences.
>>>
>>> ·         Engaging directly with individuals who have suffered abuses
>>> in the past.
>>>
>>> ·         Diversifying the workforce to involve viewpoints informed by
>>> a wide variety of life experiences and challenges in company discussions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Winfred Anyona
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:21 AM David Indeje via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barrack,
>>>>
>>>> It is not a rumour.
>>>> https://twitter.com/NAssemblyKE/status/1315988525251203072?s=20
>>>>
>>>> *Kind Regards,*
>>>>
>>>> *David Indeje *
>>>>  +254 (0) 711 385 945 |  +254 (0) 734 024 856
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 08:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Goodmorning Keith,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for starting this timely conversation. Yesterday i came
>>>>> across rumours in the blogosphere regarding the appointment of the Data
>>>>> Commissioner. Clearly Data will play a key role in this decade in our
>>>>> Social and Economic Spheres. We are seeing a way of life 'working from
>>>>> home', 'Online learning', 'e-health', 'e-agriculture' which will all be
>>>>> dependent on data. While contemplating how to respond to this discussion i
>>>>> kept asking myself whether we have or there is a need for a common
>>>>> definition of Data across all stakeholder groups. This could be a starting
>>>>> point that will make life easier for the Data Commissioner and all
>>>>> Stakeholder groups as a whole. Once we have a Common understanding, it will
>>>>> be easy to define our roles and responsibilities and use cases. We will
>>>>> also be able to define our Capacity building needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be back with more.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:36 AM Keith Andere via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I trust you are all having a great week. As you are aware this year
>>>>>> Kenya’s 2020 IGF will be one of a kind as it will be our first ever virtual
>>>>>> KIGF. It will be taking place on 29th October and as part of the build up
>>>>>> to this major event, we shall be having moderated 3-day online discussions
>>>>>> on this year’s KIGF theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These discussions will allow us to not only learn some few things but
>>>>>> also designed to allow us to dig deeper into a range of topics and
>>>>>> ultimately apply those concepts on the Big Day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This year’s first sub theme is Data. The Data track will provide for
>>>>>> discussions on the fundamental challenge of ensuring the benefits of the
>>>>>> data revolution to contribute to inclusive economic development while
>>>>>> protecting the rights of people. Under this topic there are also matters to
>>>>>> do with digital identity, data and jurisdiction, data driven emerging
>>>>>> technologies, data access, quality, innovation and competition. To this
>>>>>> end, I invite your contributions to the following questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.        What are/should be the rights and responsibilities for
>>>>>> individuals in determining the use of their personal data? How to ensure
>>>>>> transparency and accountability in the gathering and handling of personal
>>>>>> data?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.       What societal and economic benefits are enabled by the
>>>>>> trustworthy use of data to develop data-driven emerging technologies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.       To what extent, if any, could the development of
>>>>>> international norms and principles facilitate common approaches and
>>>>>> interoperability of data protection frameworks, and also facilitate
>>>>>> international trade and cooperation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4.      What is the impact of AI and other data-driven technologies
>>>>>> in the exercise of rights of most vulnerable groups? How to implement them
>>>>>> to further advance their inclusion and avoid further harm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.       How can we ensure equitable access to data for fostering
>>>>>> competition and innovation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karibuni Mjadala.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Keith Andere
>>>>>> Internet Governance | Policy | Cyber Peace & Security | Sustainable
>>>>>> Development
>>>>>> W: wa.me/+254722565212 <http://wa.me/254722565212>
>>>>>> E: keith at auyc.org /     keith.andere at unmgcy.org
>>>>>> Twitter: @AndereKE
>>>>>> Skype: Keithess
>>>>>> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com>
>>>>>> [image: linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/ke/andereke> [image:
>>>>>> twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/AndereKE>
>>>>>> *Please consider the data privacy and confidentiality of this e-mail
>>>>>> or it's contents.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> kictanet mailing list
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet
>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno
>>>>> +254721325277
>>>>> +254733206359
>>>>> Skype: barrack.otieno
>>>>> PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> kictanet mailing list
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet
>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
>>>>>
>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/davidindeje%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>
>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>>>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>>>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> kictanet mailing list
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet
>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
>>>>
>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/winfred.anyona%40strathmore.edu
>>>>
>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>
>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *Note: *All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to
>>> Strathmore’s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here
>>> <http://www.strathmore.edu/en/email-policy> to read the policy.
>>>
>>> "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity>Page
>>> and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU>Account".
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kictanet mailing list
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet
>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
>>>
>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/twahir%40hussein.me.ke
>>>
>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>
>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kictanet mailing list
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet
>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
>>
>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lizorembo%40gmail.com
>>
>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards.
> Liz.
>
> PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20201014/d734afff/attachment.htm>