[kictanet] ICANN Board rejects sale of .org and Public Interest Registry (PIR) to a private entity

Tue May 5 11:02:40 EAT 2020

I thank ICANN for the move

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> @Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>  well put.
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> @Twahir Hussein Kassim <twahir at hussein.me.ke> indeed. My sense is that
> the ISOC Board didn't read the writing on the wall on this. Which is
> unfortunate. As we famously say in Kenya - Vitu Kwa Ground in Different.
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> Regards
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> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:09 PM Noah via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>> So many questions around governance still linger non the less I
>> personally give Kudos to ICANN for the move though some think it should be
>> hands off such transactions but .org is more than just transaction.
>>
>> I think the most important outcome of this move by ICANN is that atleast
>> the chances for authoritarian states to censor .org is somewhat hindered.
>> Imagine a .org run by a for profit corporations that is subjected to some
>> powerful state influence.
>>
>> Noah
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>> On Mon, 4 May 2020, 10:18 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet, <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> I think the key word phrase here is *large Internet Community* they
>>> serve. There have been a series of ZOOM Meetings by ISOC from the onset of
>>> this. However, it was probably confined  (not certain) to only ISOC
>>> members. From the deliberations during the meetings, I must say they were
>>> very open minded and consultative. Drawing conclusions from what has been
>>> exchanged here, seems like the *consultative net* might not have been
>>> cast wide enough.
>>>
>>> Anyways, it is water under the bridge now and lessons need to be drawn
>>> from this event. Lessons I have personally drawn are: -
>>>
>>>    1. Governance is applicable to all
>>>    2. Public interest discussions should be very inclusive i.e. include
>>>    affected people from within and without the organisations
>>>    3. For transparency, reasons should be given for decisions taken by
>>>    any decision making body.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>>> Not even ISOC should be allowed to 'sell-off' Public assets without
>>>> consultations. I think that sometimes we have this sense that Do-Gooder
>>>> organizations like ISOC are above Governance Issues. This is not the case.
>>>> In fact, they should be held to higher ideals.
>>>>
>>>> My sense is that this Ethos deal might as well have been a great idea.
>>>> However, the way it was executed left a lot to be desired. A lot. I got the
>>>> sense that the ISOC Board took the attitude that  - *We know
>>>> better...Trust us...*Without sensitizing the large Internet Community
>>>> that they serve.
>>>>
>>>> Kudos to the ICANN Board for taking the position to reject the deal.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
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>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:22 PM Noah via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is this a good move by the ICANN board or should ICANN be hands of
>>>>> business and continue playing the coordination and administration.?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the .org is better off with PIR folks or should it have been
>>>>> managed by the folks at Ethos?
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there is a school of thought that  says non-profits are best off
>>>>> not trusting folks who are after stock/profit to manage such a tld which so
>>>>> many have come to depend on.
>>>>>
>>>>> In anycase, PIR needs continued support from the folks at ISOC who am
>>>>> sure must be very disappointed by this outcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> So even post IANA translation and the empowered community we still got lots
>>>>> of Politics, lobbyists, courts etc going.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noah
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ICANN Board made the decision to reject the proposed change of
>>>>>> control and entity conversion request that Public Interest Registry (PIR)
>>>>>> submitted to ICANN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After completing extensive due diligence, the ICANN Board finds that
>>>>>> withholding consent of the transfer of PIR from the Internet Society (
>>>>>> ISOC) to Ethos Capital is reasonable, and the right thing to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN's role is to ensure the stable and secure operation of the
>>>>>> Internet's unique identifier systems. We are dedicated to making the right
>>>>>> decision, knowing that whatever we decide will be well received by some,
>>>>>> and not by others. It is our responsibility to weigh all factors from an
>>>>>> ICANN Bylaws and policies perspective, including considering the
>>>>>> global public interest. We have done this diligently, ensuring as much
>>>>>> transparency as possible and welcoming input from stakeholders throughout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-board-withholds-consent-for-a-change-of-control-of-the-public-interest-registry-pir
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