[kictanet] Google has revoked Huawei's Android license

Tue May 21 20:43:19 EAT 2019

Dear Listers,
I can’t stop my self from commenting on this topic. It looks like we are underestimating USA and its allies. US is a net importer while China is a net exporter, economics experts, understand the impact of tariffs on these types of economies.

Also china’s economy is not that open compared to the western economies. Google maps can’t be used in China etc.

Chinese government spends billions of dollars sending students to US to learn technology and sciences but I don’t see US government doing the same. Clearly you should see who are the leaders. Don’t forget most  of Chinese technology was derived from stolen intellectual property (IP) from US and the Chinese government encourages this.

The country with the highest number of cyber attacks is the US and most of the attacks come from China, Russia, Iran etc. trying to steel technology and IP. 

And finally don’t forget USA made China the way it is now. 
First by allowing China to join WTO and by doing so China was able to increase trade with US and secondly US and its allies transferring knowledge to China through joint ventures. They stopped using japan and Korea since the cost of labor increased in those countries and if the cost of labor increases in China they will move again.
Br,
Paul. 

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> On May 21, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> A bit of context: Huawei is the largest telecom equipment company in the world. It posted more than $107B in revenue last year and operates in more than 170 countries, that is a threat to the US. They are also the first to develop 5G technology, which will ensure AI devices function seamlessly, driverless cars not to crash, machines communicate in real time round the world and that nearly every device in the world will be wired.
> 
> They just have not risen to the top by accident, they have a whooping 80k staff dedicated to R&D - Thats half of its staff in R&D..
> 
> This is def a trade war and the US has been spooked, Huawei having its own OS will be a game changer.
> 
> So are we relying on Global Techs? 
> 
> I tend to look at it this way, we rely on what works for us. Repercussions - well he who pays the piper...
> 
> Best
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>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:47 AM Alex Comninos via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> Thanks for starting the debate.
>> 
>> I think this is a trade war instigated by a madman
>> 
>> Definitely there is a reliance on Global tech, but making trade-war sabre rattling around consumer products is not dealing with the issues involved. 
>> 
>> Its weird the focus is on Google and Android while Huawei has got components in telecom networks around the world. 
>> 
>> Its possible for anyone to backdoor components. 
>> 
>> Its easy to throw these accusations around and there is little scrutiny when pointing at the traditional bad guys. Remember supermicro? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/05/bloomberg-submitted-big-hack-story-award/?utm_term=.4c1c59bb4bb5
>> 
>> There are also western companies doing the same thing. 
>> 
>> I think resorting to not importing tech from other countries is not viable. The only solution would be very hard: open hardware, transparent procurement, controls in the supply chain, and much vigilance.
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Alex
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2019, at 04:28, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> Dear Listers,
>>> I hope this email finds you well, this is the current trending topic, I'd like to here your views on this topic from a Policy Perspective.
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>>> Are we overrelying on Global Techs? What are the possible repercussions if they pull out on us? Should Global Techs be declared Dominant to balance the market and reduce the risks of a failure? Feel free to add more questions. 
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>>> Looking forward to your views on this. 
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