[kictanet] [are social media users a community or the product?] Facebook "Community Standards£.

Mutemi wa Kiama eddiekiama at gmail.com
Wed May 8 13:06:40 EAT 2019


And I was right! Here's what has happened to my Comrade Al Amin Kimathi
when he posted it!

Warm regards,

Edwin Kiama

Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
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Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach

#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion

The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.

Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com

https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya

https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt

https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts

http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya


"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change
the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead

On Wed, 8 May 2019, 12:53 Mutemi wa Kiama, <eddiekiama at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Patrick for the comprehensive reading list!
>
> Facebook would probably take this video down.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Edwin Kiama
>
> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>
> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>
> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>
> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>
> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>
> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>
> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change
> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
>
> On Tue, 7 May 2019, 20:54 Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet, <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> I'm still stuck at "Community"...
>>
>> 1. Lets be honest, are social media users a "community" or are they the
>> product?
>>
>> 2. Even if we assume that the users are a community, who have to abide by
>> "community standards" that they did not participate in their making (and
>> without independent recourse), does that not make social media platforms a
>> new form of tyrannical 21st Century pseudo-world-government?
>>
>> 3. The word community has socialist connotations. It gives users
>> (products) a sense of platform ownership (emphasis on "sense of"). How come
>> problems (and intangible benefits) belong to the community but material
>> benefits exclusively belong to a few individuals? Perhaps platforms would
>> be less problematic if they were community owned and operated.
>>
>> 4. When will global platforms start paying taxes fairly in each
>> jurisdiction?
>>
>> 5. When will they stop operating illegally in some jurisdictions where
>> they extract value (e.g. failing to set up a local office, failing to
>> register for PIN, failing to register for VAT as required by law)?
>>
>> Suggested reading list:
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> 1. Why Platform Cooperatives Can Be The Answer To A Fairer Sharing Economy
>>
>> https://www.intelligenthq.com/why-platform-cooperatives-can-be-the-answer-to-a-fairer-sharing-economy/
>>
>> 2. The argument for worker-owned Tech Collectives
>>
>> https://www.fastcompany.com/3021964/the-argument-for-worker-owned-tech-collectives
>>
>> 3. Platform cooperative (overview)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_cooperative
>>
>> 4. Technology and Tyranny
>> https://www.e-ir.info/2019/01/21/technology-and-tyranny/
>>
>> 5. Algorithm and Blues (Why optimizing the world for efficiency,
>> productivity and happiness is bad for humanity)
>>
>> https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/algorithm-and-blues-the-tyranny-of-the-coming-smart-tech-utopia/
>>
>> 5. Team Human as a manifesto:
>> https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/12/douglas-rushkoff-sxsw-team-human/
>>
>> Brgds,
>> Patrick
>>
>> Patrick A. M. Maina
>> [Cross-domain Innovator | Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations]
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 3:19:16 PM GMT+3, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm curious to understand why the notice Mutemi received says "Warning"
>> yet the content of the message is essentially an apology from Facebook.
>> Also, does raising the issue here point to Facebook's internal moderation
>> and online complaint handling mechanisms within the platform being
>> ineffective, especially for those who can't get in touch directly with
>> Mercy/Ebele?
>>
>> *Victor Kapiyo*
>> Partner | *Lawmark Partners LLP*
>> *Suite No. 8, Centro House, Westlands, Nairobi | **Web:
>> www.lawmark.co.ke <http://www.lawmark.co.ke> *
>> ====================================================
>>
>> *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig
>> Ziglar*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 13:22, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mwendwa!
>>
>> Update... Got the attached message from FB.
>>
>> Still hoping the FB team here will let the List know what the issue was.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Edwin Kiama
>>
>> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>>
>> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>>
>> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>>
>> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>>
>> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>>
>> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>>
>>
>> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever
>> has." ~Margaret Mead
>>
>> On Mon, 6 May 2019, 21:20 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> During the very informative "Talk to Facebook" session organised by
>> KICTANet, and attended by both Ebele and Mutemi wa Kiama, the issue of
>> content moderation was discussed at length.
>>
>> It is very helpful when this issue is discussed here, and the final
>> resolution shared. It will help us document how such challenges are
>> handled.
>>
>> Content producers, bloggers, activists, human rights defenders, and civil
>> society organisations use the power of the Internet, and especially social
>> media tools to report, pitch, organize, mobilize, and inform. They find
>> especially Facebook to be very helpful in their work. Revolutions all over
>> the world have happened in social media changing the direction of society.
>> The protagonists are usually Governments or large organisations. These
>> protagonists have mastered the game, and understood how content moderation
>> works. They mobilize an army of social media users (sometimes even botnets)
>> to spear and report a single social media account as having infringed on
>> some social standards. This speared account is then brought down, or the
>> content moderated. We have seen this happen to one particular twitter
>> account which was not very friendly to the establishment. I have seen this
>> tactic employed by cryptocurrency rivals to bring down opponents.
>>
>> We should understand the difficult environment social media platforms
>> have to go through  navigating social-political challenges all over the
>> globe. Governments themselves have grown to be very assertive, and some
>> even try to mimic the China model of banning platforms all-together to
>> reign on their citizens. On the other hand, platforms have to find a
>> balance to grow market share without the wrath of governments. It is
>> business suicide for platforms not to conform to government standards else
>> they will loose market share. The important thing is find a working balance.
>>
>> Facebook should understand the political environment it operates in, and
>> communicate clearly how it handles politically incorrect accounts. Perhaps,
>> another "Talk to Facebook" is due.
>>
>> Warm Regards
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 11:56 Mercy Ndegwa via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mutemi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the links. Please allow us some time to review and i will
>> revert as soon as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mercy Ndegwa
>>
>> Head of Public Policy, East Africa
>>
>> Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Mutemi wa Kiama <eddiekiama at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Monday, May 6, 2019 at 11:49 AM
>> *To: *Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa at fb.com>
>> *Cc: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Facebook "Community Standards£.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mercy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the links:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316377209106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316479889106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316705529106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316742004106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316799189106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157316835789106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157317003499106&id=736414105
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect the individual characterized in the following post is the one
>> who could have reported all the other posts
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157317072534106&id=736414105
>> but my concern is why the reviewers would then not correct the situation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some of the posts have been reinstated while others have been taken down
>> (only I can see them).
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Edwin Kiama
>>
>> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>>
>> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>>
>> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>>
>> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=e6rB4uP8bvgt4rriTl0mvOokX0AL259Cxk865OmOrfo&s=G-5sdM16MxfCKoCsOlaQihHDy6JG46WLQo1e0TM9w68&e=>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>>
>> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=e6rB4uP8bvgt4rriTl0mvOokX0AL259Cxk865OmOrfo&s=DGjbdgby58mvCArB9ZFltNRtY20pmBHkzrodqLZZ4vo&e=>
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=e6rB4uP8bvgt4rriTl0mvOokX0AL259Cxk865OmOrfo&s=zvLBHAZncGsTdjgjIMQLJl_4mvIKdOyTaT73ORazT-A&e=>
>>
>> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=e6rB4uP8bvgt4rriTl0mvOokX0AL259Cxk865OmOrfo&s=fxP1Ay4cc-5aVT9hP1TveLTomwt_3hqEBJ9Kztu3S6A&e=>
>>
>>
>> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever
>> has." ~Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 May 2019, 10:31 Mercy Ndegwa, <shikondegwa at fb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mutemi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for flagging the issue. Pease do share the links to the
>> specific pieces of content you would like us to address and we will shed
>> more light on the specific considerations taken to review that content.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barrack, I am also happy to explore the proposal to revisit an
>> informative session on our Community Standards and or other relevant topics
>> of discussion of interest to this community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mercy Ndegwa
>>
>> Head of Public Policy, East Africa
>>
>> Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *kictanet <kictanet-bounces+shikondegwa=
>> fb.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Date: *Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:18 AM
>> *To: *Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa at fb.com>
>> *Cc: *Mutemi wa Kiama <eddiekiama at gmail.com>, KICTAnet ICT Policy
>> Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Facebook "Community Standards£.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Barrack,
>>
>>
>>
>> Much appreciated.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Edwin Kiama
>>
>> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>>
>> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>>
>> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>>
>> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=2LDyeDLbsZAeOY69NRke1WDPwAmG1WJ1_kd453-r4Wg&e=>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>>
>> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=FfPsULRFzXGqitB0PVSSo26hTE8SEeWUlW8vLPfflI8&e=>
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=Fzjzp68EG7MQqwnMx2GWOB8FYZiwncpM7LFiB4Xbd9Y&e=>
>>
>> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=RHk8IZ6oT2NaKMjM2xKXCB8imvKUUlGXoa1LqbA_KSQ&e=>
>>
>>
>> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever
>> has." ~Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 May 2019, 10:14 Barrack Otieno, <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mutemi,
>>
>> This conversation is educative, i think we should keep it here. Mercy
>> and George can shed more light on the issues so that we can all learn
>> as a Community.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 5/6/19, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear Ebele & FB team,
>> >
>> > Once again thanks for the prompt response.
>> >
>> > Am sure Mercy and team are following the conversation though I got a
>> > vacation/traveling responder from her email. For the benefit of Listers
>> > here who could be having similar concerns, could we keep the
>> conversation
>> > here?
>> >
>> > I appreciate your response vis a vis difficulty moderating global
>> cultural
>> > attitudes towards skin, genitalia and nudity as well as need to protect
>> > children. However, surely the three images I attach here again for your
>> > benefit do not fit in that mould?
>> >
>> > I would really appreciate your advice on what is considered offensive in
>> > these three images, especially considering someone in my FB Community
>> could
>> > have reported them. It will also be useful in guiding my own self
>> > moderation.
>> >
>> > Warm regards,
>> >
>> > Edwin Kiama
>> >
>> > Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> > Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>> >
>> > #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>> >
>> > The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> > Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>> >
>> > Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=2LDyeDLbsZAeOY69NRke1WDPwAmG1WJ1_kd453-r4Wg&e=>
>> >
>> > https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>> >
>> > https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=FfPsULRFzXGqitB0PVSSo26hTE8SEeWUlW8vLPfflI8&e=>
>> >
>> > https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=Fzjzp68EG7MQqwnMx2GWOB8FYZiwncpM7LFiB4Xbd9Y&e=>
>> >
>> > http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=RHk8IZ6oT2NaKMjM2xKXCB8imvKUUlGXoa1LqbA_KSQ&e=>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> change
>> > the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
>> >
>> > On Mon, 6 May 2019, 08:53 Ebele Okobi, <ebeleokobi at fb.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mercy and George are the right contacts, and you can engage directly,
>> >> w/out posting your account details to KICTAnet. She will need the link
>> to
>> >> the specific pieces of content you are addressing, as well.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mercy and Fadzai can explain in more detail, but it is highly unlikely
>> >> that most of the content you are describing was removed as a result of
>> >> algorithms. The most likely scenario is that it was reported by a
>> member
>> >> of
>> >> your own Facebook community. It was then reviewed by one of our human
>> >> reviewers, and if the content was fully frontal nudity, was removed as
>> >> being against policy. We continue to grapple with how to craft and
>> >> implement global policies that address the most harm while allowing the
>> >> most speech. As a result of significant risk related to child
>> >> exploitation
>> >> content and consent, our rules currently do not allow for images of
>> >> children’s genitalia. I am a mother, of African children. I recognize
>> >> that
>> >> my cute picture of my son in the bath is not child exploitation
>> content,
>> >> but unfortunately, at scale it is very difficult to apply a rule that
>> >> recognizes that nuance, and which would leave up my cute naked African
>> >> child and take down that same cute African child in an account that,
>> for
>> >> ex, collects images of those cute naked children w/out the consent of
>> >> their
>> >> parents and posts them on a page for the review of less benign viewers.
>> >> Note that this is not actually an “African” problem (many Danish and
>> >> French
>> >> and Bangladeshi and Fijian mothers/cultures also want to post pictures
>> of
>> >> naked children) , and also note the implications of allowing only
>> African
>> >> children to be depicted nude on our platforms while taking down
>> pictures
>> >> of
>> >> European children.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We have often hosted “ask me anything” and similar events discussing
>> our
>> >> content policies. They are useful for helping to give an understanding
>> of
>> >> the amount of thought that goes into creating and enforcing. It’s
>> >> impossible for these global rules to be perfect, and feedback is
>> >> welcomed,
>> >> but it’s also most useful with an understanding of the context in which
>> >> they were created. Mercy would be delighted to explore whether another
>> >> one
>> >> for this community would be of interest.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime, these articles are illuminating-there might be a
>> >> paywall-alas, nothing I can do about that.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/world/facebook-moderators.html
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_12_27_world_facebook-2Dmoderators.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=5640BtJDdn1bTq10GMScM0ne9sRIqKg31O4FI8Ovaa0&e=>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-team-at-facebook-that-dealt-with-the-christchurch-shooting
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.newyorker.com_news_news-2Ddesk_inside-2Dthe-2Dteam-2Dat-2Dfacebook-2Dthat-2Ddealt-2Dwith-2Dthe-2Dchristchurch-2Dshooting&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=gINlu5GFDW86y8Wdnsn4wEGwmUjyqup8_fqN5a3bw6s&e=>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best, Ebele
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From: *Mutemi wa Kiama <eddiekiama at gmail.com>
>> >> *Date: *Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 9:35 AM
>> >> *To: *Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
>> >> *Cc: *Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa at fb.com>, George Owuor <gowuor at fb.com>,
>> >> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
>> Fadzai
>> >> Madzingira <fmadzingira at fb.com>
>> >> *Subject: *Re: Facebook "Community Standards£.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you Ebele for your quick response. Here is a link to the profile:
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/MutemiWaKiama
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Additionally, the FB algorithms also seem no to recognise that some
>> >> African nudity is not culturally "inappropriate", eg young boys
>> swimming
>> >> in
>> >> a river, or the two children I have attached in the original email.
>> >>
>> >> Warm regards,
>> >>
>> >> Edwin Kiama
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>> >>
>> >>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> >> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>> >>
>> >> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>> >>
>> >> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> >> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>> >>
>> >> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=2LDyeDLbsZAeOY69NRke1WDPwAmG1WJ1_kd453-r4Wg&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=HN9QGITARk6W6QsjdsO0c_5RGVswg_WywLfejq5SFXY&s=6Rvbs65q7oD-9RMFncGgvwbFIyCQebeK_r6vVlmpwaQ&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>> >>
>> >> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=FfPsULRFzXGqitB0PVSSo26hTE8SEeWUlW8vLPfflI8&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=HN9QGITARk6W6QsjdsO0c_5RGVswg_WywLfejq5SFXY&s=BUDlm7M7BKY3odCeKHo6nghaIXxLWVcFdWKeWKPHfEw&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=Fzjzp68EG7MQqwnMx2GWOB8FYZiwncpM7LFiB4Xbd9Y&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=HN9QGITARk6W6QsjdsO0c_5RGVswg_WywLfejq5SFXY&s=mcYsYkXxhoCTulZIH9_wUi-NrpACV49-pRAXLk-Ieoc&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=RHk8IZ6oT2NaKMjM2xKXCB8imvKUUlGXoa1LqbA_KSQ&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=HN9QGITARk6W6QsjdsO0c_5RGVswg_WywLfejq5SFXY&s=oLwjbDMEm25xLKhRehUafznf8tCGJjIDeXOTN6K-4Cg&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> >> change
>> >> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 4 May 2019, 21:33 Ebele Okobi, <ebeleokobi at fb.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If you have a question about Facebook, you may always contact us
>> >> directly.
>> >> I have cc’ed Mercy Ndegwa (Head of Policy for East Africa) and George
>> >> Owuor
>> >> (Policy Manager for East Africa) for follow up.
>> >>
>> >> Please send them the link to the account from which content was
>> actionned
>> >> so that they can escalate. You may need to wait until the work week to
>> >> hear
>> >> back, unless this is an emergency involving threat to life or similarly
>> >> grave circumstances.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The relevance of Cambridge Analytica in this context is unclear, but I
>> >> trust you will discuss in detail with my team.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Ebele
>> >>
>> >> ebele okobi
>> >>
>> >> public policy director | africa, the middle east & turkey
>> >>
>> >> facebook inc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 4, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Mutemi wa Kiama <eddiekiama at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> According to Facebook these posts go against "Community Standards"!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why, because they're critical of GoK and it's leadership, advocate for
>> >> African wokeness, or the kids are in ethnic attire?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Whose Community Standards and on what basis? Facebook has taken most of
>> >> them down today. Could someone please make me understand!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Or has Cambridge Analytica taken over Facebook? This is censorship in
>> my
>> >> book!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Warm regards,
>> >>
>> >> Edwin Kiama
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
>> >>
>> >>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
>> >> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>> >>
>> >> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>> >>
>> >> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
>> >> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>> >>
>> >> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=2LDyeDLbsZAeOY69NRke1WDPwAmG1WJ1_kd453-r4Wg&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sautiyawanjiku.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=_QpWpfV90duPcHpdUxCBEuh5HjMF3I5hGVwwLS68tts&s=odMcGIH3ia-uNBOGqxg_RX38tu1KZlcrpvLTRJTcKjM&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya
>> >>
>> >> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=FfPsULRFzXGqitB0PVSSo26hTE8SEeWUlW8vLPfflI8&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_WanjikuRevolt&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=_QpWpfV90duPcHpdUxCBEuh5HjMF3I5hGVwwLS68tts&s=5c6MWN_m6hjmRZcDeokXbB0l660ulF8Sw1F4bdXY_HQ&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=Fzjzp68EG7MQqwnMx2GWOB8FYZiwncpM7LFiB4Xbd9Y&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_u_1_-2BWanjikuMapinduzi_posts&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=_QpWpfV90duPcHpdUxCBEuh5HjMF3I5hGVwwLS68tts&s=WUg7bvVguOmj2LTmKuGosg_KDR23L5lHKRQC80MYBE4&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=R9vpXVgzlXsp38jl_U0idoylGsHBCsprYz0LSbe6sIA&s=RHk8IZ6oT2NaKMjM2xKXCB8imvKUUlGXoa1LqbA_KSQ&e=>
>> >> <
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scribd.com_wmkenya&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=_QpWpfV90duPcHpdUxCBEuh5HjMF3I5hGVwwLS68tts&s=wZ2Kb-C7HwI2QDXCKJBzo5fGL_Zgs3ZBIHjg6UUuLPE&e=
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can
>> >> change
>> >> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-191325_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-190809_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-191307_1.jpg>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-190752_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-190930_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-190912_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >> <Screenshot_20190504-190730_1.jpg>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
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>> +254733206359
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