[kictanet] Facebook "Community Standards£.

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Mon May 6 10:06:32 EAT 2019


Interesting scenarios Ebele which shows the dilemma we are faced with
as our communities continue to adopt the Internet.

Regards

On 5/6/19, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Mercy and George are the right contacts, and you can engage directly, w/out
> posting your account details to KICTAnet. She will need the link to the
> specific pieces of content you are addressing, as well.
>
> Mercy and Fadzai can explain in more detail, but it is highly unlikely that
> most of the content you are describing was removed as a result of
> algorithms. The most likely scenario is that it was reported by a member of
> your own Facebook community. It was then reviewed by one of our human
> reviewers, and if the content was fully frontal nudity, was removed as being
> against policy. We continue to grapple with how to craft and implement
> global policies that address the most harm while allowing the most speech.
> As a result of significant risk related to child exploitation content and
> consent, our rules currently do not allow for images of children’s
> genitalia. I am a mother, of African children. I recognize that my cute
> picture of my son in the bath is not child exploitation content, but
> unfortunately, at scale it is very difficult to apply a rule that recognizes
> that nuance, and which would leave up my cute naked African child and take
> down that same cute African child in an account that, for ex, collects
> images of those cute naked children w/out the consent of their parents and
> posts them on a page for the review of less benign viewers. Note that this
> is not actually an “African” problem (many Danish and French and Bangladeshi
> and Fijian mothers/cultures also want to post pictures of naked children) ,
> and also note the implications of allowing only African children to be
> depicted nude on our platforms while taking down pictures of European
> children.
>
> We have often hosted “ask me anything” and similar events discussing our
> content policies. They are useful for helping to give an understanding of
> the amount of thought that goes into creating and enforcing. It’s impossible
> for these global rules to be perfect, and feedback is welcomed, but it’s
> also most useful with an understanding of the context in which they were
> created. Mercy would be delighted to explore whether another one for this
> community would be of interest.
>
> In the meantime, these articles are illuminating-there might be a
> paywall-alas, nothing I can do about that.
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/world/facebook-moderators.html
> https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-team-at-facebook-that-dealt-with-the-christchurch-shooting
>
>
> Best, Ebele
>
> From: Mutemi wa Kiama <eddiekiama at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 9:35 AM
> To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
> Cc: Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa at fb.com>, George Owuor <gowuor at fb.com>,
> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>, Fadzai
> Madzingira <fmadzingira at fb.com>
> Subject: Re: Facebook "Community Standards£.
>
> Thank you Ebele for your quick response. Here is a link to the profile:
> https://www.facebook.com/MutemiWaKiama
>
> Additionally, the FB algorithms also seem no to recognise that some African
> nudity is not culturally "inappropriate", eg young boys swimming in a river,
> or the two children I have attached in the original email.
> Warm regards,
>
> Edwin Kiama
>
> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
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>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change
> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
>
> On Sat, 4 May 2019, 21:33 Ebele Okobi,
> <ebeleokobi at fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi at fb.com>> wrote:
> If you have a question about Facebook, you may always contact us directly. I
> have cc’ed Mercy Ndegwa (Head of Policy for East Africa) and George Owuor
> (Policy Manager for East Africa) for follow up.
> Please send them the link to the account from which content was actionned so
> that they can escalate. You may need to wait until the work week to hear
> back, unless this is an emergency involving threat to life or similarly
> grave circumstances.
>
> The relevance of Cambridge Analytica in this context is unclear, but I trust
> you will discuss in detail with my team.
>
> Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention.
>
> Best,
> Ebele
> ebele okobi
> public policy director | africa, the middle east & turkey
> facebook inc.
>
>
>
> On May 4, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Mutemi wa Kiama
> <eddiekiama at gmail.com<mailto:eddiekiama at gmail.com>> wrote:
> According to Facebook these posts go against "Community Standards"!
>
> Why, because they're critical of GoK and it's leadership, advocate for
> African wokeness, or the kids are in ethnic attire?
>
> Whose Community Standards and on what basis? Facebook has taken most of them
> down today. Could someone please make me understand!
>
> Or has Cambridge Analytica taken over Facebook? This is censorship in my
> book!
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Edwin Kiama
>
> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights
> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach
>
> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion
>
> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)
> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans.
>
> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement
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> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change
> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead
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