[kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp + Plenipot Issues (Kenya's Position)

Rachel Alwaa rdalwala at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 17:07:56 EAT 2018 

Hi Wainaina, those are common proposals to the World Telecommunications Standardization Assembly In 2016. The ITU PP-18 African Common Proposals  can be found at the link: https://www.itu.int/md/S18-PP-C-0055/en.

Ali, the allegation was that we have proposals on internet regulation. If Barrack could point out which resolution proposes internet regulation it would be helpful. 

Regards, Rachel

> On Nov 6, 2018, at 15:36, Wainaina Mungai via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> See African Common Proposals at 
> https://www.itu.int/md/T13-WTSA.16-C-0042/en
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> Rachel
>> 
>> How about you start by telling us what the African Common Proposals are? 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
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>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:20 PM Rachel Alwaa via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> Hi Barrack, 
>>> 
>>> Indeed Kenya is aligned to the African Common proposals but I am not aware of any resolution that focuses on the regulation of the internet. Could you share the specific resolution that proposes to do what you are alleging, then we can respond appropriately? 
>>> 
>>> Regards, Rachel
>>> 
>>> > On Nov 5, 2018, at 20:58, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Greetings Mr. Wambua,
>>> > 
>>> > Many thanks for your prompt and elaborate responses as always. Permit
>>> > me to behave like a mosquito and ask another question before we put
>>> > the matter to rest. I was chatting with a friend who passed by the
>>> > Plenipot in Dubai. I understand African Governments are unanimous
>>> > about the need to regulate the Internet and are making arrangements to
>>> > conduct similar studies, is this a correct position?. What is Kenya's
>>> > position on Internet Regulation once again has it changed?
>>> > 
>>> > Congratulations to the Kenyan delegation for bagging another chance to
>>> > seat on the ITU Council.
>>> > 
>>> > Best Regards
>>> > 
>>> > On 11/2/18, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet
>>> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> >> Listers
>>> >> 
>>> >> For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender in question,  I wish to
>>> >> refer listers to  the public tender document which is available on CA’s
>>> >> website at
>>> >> https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Study-On-Over-The-Top-OTTs-Technologies-Services-In-Kenya.pdf
>>> >> 
>>> >> In brief, the Authority, under its strategic objective of enabling
>>> >> widespread deployment of infrastructure and services through promotion of
>>> >> new and emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to determine the
>>> >> regulatory mechanisms that can be employed to cater for new and emerging
>>> >> areas with specific focus on over the top services.  The consultant shall be
>>> >> expected to propose the regulatory approach that the Authority can take in
>>> >> respect to OTTs. CA takes this opportunity to invite listers who meet the
>>> >> requirements set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by 14th
>>> >> November 2018.
>>> >> 
>>> >> CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest whatsoever in snooping
>>> >> into your WhatsApp conversations as that would be against the spirit and
>>> >> letter of the constitution. We have however noted that the headlines on the
>>> >> articles on this tender are misleading, and the Authority is taking up this
>>> >> matter with the respective editors.
>>> >> 
>>> >> I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Regards
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Christopher Wambua
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>>> >> 
>>> >> From: kictanet
>>> >> <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>>> >> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions
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>>> >> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions
>>> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>>> >> Date: Friday, 2 November 2018 at 05:07
>>> >> To: Christopher Wambua <wambua at ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua at ca.go.ke>>
>>> >> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali at hussein.me.ke>>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp
>>> >> 
>>> >> @GG
>>> >> 
>>> >> Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the world is coming to. Everyone
>>> >> wants to snoop and regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value
>>> >> proposition to increasing  snooping on us?
>>> >> 
>>> >> Regulators need to spend more time enabling the sector they are supposed to
>>> >> grow and the CA has really been progressive in many ways. Once in a while
>>> >> though they try to go back to the bad old KANU days. The onus is on us to
>>> >> remind them that Kenyans shut that door kitambo sana.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Ali Hussein
>>> >> Principal
>>> >> AHK & Associates
>>> >> +254 0713 601113
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> >> 
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>>> >> 
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>>> >> 
>>> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>>> >> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >> 
>>> >> On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet
>>> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Kenya is considering regulating online services such as WhatsApp and Skype
>>> >> in a radical move that could force the internet-based service providers to
>>> >> share data with the government.
>>> >> 
>>> >> The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) is in search of a consultant to
>>> >> study and determine how the so-called over-the-top services (OTTS) operated
>>> >> by groups such as Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype owner Microsoft,
>>> >> could be regulated.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Read on:
>>> >> https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp/996-4833020-fn9u7s/index.html
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Githaiga, Grace
>>> >> 
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