[kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook

Wed Mar 28 23:41:19 EAT 2018

@Kivuva yes, your answer does explain well!

@Ebele  "
*Which part are you struggling to believe? That it is securely stored or
that it is not sold? "*
                Answer: Both

Regards

Tracy Kadesa,
LL.B ,University of Nairobi.
Dip KSL
tracykadesa.wordpress.com
legalwalk.wordpress.com

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Tracy, I'm not holding brief for FB, but I understand your question.
>
> The main business model for FB is advertisement. If you have ever
> advertised on the platform, you would understand the need to build
> profiles. So for example, if you are selling ladies handbags, and diapers,
> you would tell FB to show the bags to [ladies], in [Kenya], aged between
> [21 to 50]. If you cannot deliver to Turkana, you can say, [living in
> Nairobi, or Mombasa]. For the diapers, you would tell FB to show the
> advertisement to [ladies] between [22 and 40] living in suburban areas.
> This is the same for Google too.
>
> In my FB profile, I never see these types of adverts because FB already
> has a profile about me, but the ladies within my household see these
> adverts.
>
> Since you are probably billed per view, or per click, it is more value for
> the advertiser to TARGET the advertisement to the right audience, otherwise
> you will loose your advertising capital showing irrelevant advertisement to
> those in Turkana.
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> On Mar 28, 2018 8:03 PM, "Tracy Kadesa" <kadesatracy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Ebele
>
> With what's going on right now, I am struggling to believe this
> statement  "Your information is securely stored and we do not sell this
> information to third parties. You are always in control of the information
> you share with Facebook." And why would fb collect all this info anyway
> if it wasn't planning to make use of it! what is the rationale?
>
> Regards
>
> Tracy Kadesa,
> LL.B ,University of Nairobi.
> Dip KSL
> tracykadesa.wordpress.com
> legalwalk.wordpress.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> As Ali has put it before, it's really refreshing seeing that we can get
>> first level support, and feedback from Facebook. This really is the
>> advantage of having an ecosystem of engagement which KICTANET provides.
>> It's refreshing bigly :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 6:06 PM Ebele Okobi via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes-those have been in the works for months, to be launched this week.
>>> The news has understandably overshadowed these announcements. That
>>> said-stay tuned for more details.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just seen this as well...
>>>
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-03-28/
>>> facebook-updates-privacy-tools-for-better-data-control?
>>> __twitter_impression=true
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.bloomberg.com_amp_news_articles_2018-2D03-2D28_facebook-2Dupdates-2Dprivacy-2Dtools-2Dfor-2Dbetter-2Ddata-2Dcontrol-3F-5F-5Ftwitter-5Fimpression-3Dtrue&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=Xzm9uwGN_kyJwCb9iCxi8xO8-rt6b-PqkQf_7ykb3CU&s=LRebF_k8lIuXqpJG14v8KR23D85FImQTIQesG1JwMHA&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018, 12:31 Ngigi Waithaka, <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ebele,
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case, then I guess what they do is get a 'screenshot' of
>>>> your photo and maybe *overlay* it on your newsfeed / timeline. The
>>>> *impression* it gives you is that the photo is already uploaded...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clarification-your photos are not auto-uploaded to Facebook. The app
>>>>> has access to your photos and essentially shows you your own photo folder
>>>>> and asks if you want to upload. Your pictures do not get uploaded to
>>>>> Facebook until you upload them yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think it’s a good piece of feedback for our product teams to know
>>>>> that a) this feature is confusing to you, and b) that showing users their
>>>>> photos and asking if they want to upload can be off-putting/not a good
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Ebele
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ebele,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your update, I will check on the contacts settings as you
>>>>> have indicated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think though some of the choices we make are not very
>>>>> *clearly* spelt out when we make them. For instance, I can understand the
>>>>> need to sync my contacts, but *not* my call & sms history! And this is
>>>>> especially so for those of use (most of us?) who use our phones for both
>>>>> personal & official business.
>>>>>
>>>>> My recommendation, have at least three settings clearly indicating
>>>>> what you would use them for, if at all!
>>>>> 1. Sync contacts
>>>>> 2. Sync Call records (***)
>>>>> 3. Sync SMS & Messages (***)
>>>>>
>>>>> As regards the photos this is what happen(s) / happened. Normally I
>>>>> would not give FB access to my photos.However, at some point I needed to
>>>>> upload a certain specific photo on to some FB markets that I participate in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shortly as I was still in the market and as I was scrolling though my
>>>>> newsfeed I started seeing a number of family photos that I had taken
>>>>> earlier, already uploaded but kind of greyed out, with FB asking me whether
>>>>> I wanted to share them.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is very disconcerting!
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, if a user gives access to his photo library for a *single*
>>>>> photo, that should not mean *all* my photos are auto-uploaded to FB, then
>>>>> FB prompts me to share them...
>>>>>
>>>>> My recommendation would be to have at least two settings:
>>>>> 1. Upload a single photo
>>>>> 2. Auto- Upload *ALL* my photos
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I don't consider myself a *pro* FB user, it may very well be that
>>>>> indeed this is already covered so thanks for being our 'customer-care',
>>>>> appreciate :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Answers below-for your first question, it’s VERY important to clarify
>>>>>> that Facebook does not “pick up” your contacts. You have to expressly agree
>>>>>> to upload your contacts. For example, I have never agreed to this, so my
>>>>>> contacts have never been uploaded. If you change your mind about the
>>>>>> permission you have given, or if you accidentally gave permission, please
>>>>>> see below for how to opt back out. Note that this feature is “opt-in”, so
>>>>>> express agreement is required for it to be happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the same for the photographs, so can you please clarify your
>>>>>> question? Are you saying that you granted permission for specific photos to
>>>>>> be posted on your page, and now you want to delete them? Facebook does not
>>>>>> automatically upload any photographs to your page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for
>>>>>>    people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and
>>>>>>    stay connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a
>>>>>>    better experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use
>>>>>>    this feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they
>>>>>>    can turn it off in settings
>>>>>>    <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, or here
>>>>>>    <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for
>>>>>>    Facebook Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared
>>>>>>    via that app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android,
>>>>>>    uploading this information has always been opt-in only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke>
>>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 5:37 PM
>>>>>> *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ebele,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to see FB represented here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got two questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Supposing FB has picked up my contacts and SMS and I would like to
>>>>>> delete any prior data that has been uploaded, how would I go about that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. I also noticed that when I allow FB contacts to my PhotoGallery on
>>>>>> Android for purposes of being able to select pictures to upload, by
>>>>>> default, it then would upload *all* new pictures taken and ask me whether
>>>>>> I'd like to share them on my timeline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to also delete any such content that FB has picked
>>>>>> from my phone and auto-uploaded?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 19:30 Ebele Okobi via kictanet, <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is useful context, below. Please do let me know if there are
>>>>>> additional questions or concerns. I do appreciate how significant an issue
>>>>>> this is, and am happy to answer questions and relay concerns internally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-
>>>>>> and-sms-history/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> March 25, 2018
>>>>>> Fact Check: Your Call and SMS History
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may have seen some recent reports that Facebook has been logging
>>>>>> people’s call and SMS (text) history without their permission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not the case.
>>>>>> Opt-in features in Facebook Lite and Messenger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people
>>>>>> using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and stay
>>>>>> connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a better
>>>>>> experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use this
>>>>>> feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they can
>>>>>> turn it off in settings
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, or here
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for Facebook
>>>>>> Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared via that
>>>>>> app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android,
>>>>>> uploading this information has always been opt-in only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We introduced this feature for Android users a couple of years ago.
>>>>>> Contact importers are fairly common among social apps and services as a way
>>>>>> to more easily find the people you want to connect with. This was first
>>>>>> introduced in Messenger in 2015, and later offered as an option in Facebook
>>>>>> Lite, a lightweight version of Facebook for Android.
>>>>>> How it works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you sign up for Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android, or log
>>>>>> into Messenger on an Android device, you are given the option to
>>>>>> continuously upload your contacts as well as your call and text history.
>>>>>> For Messenger, you can either turn it on, choose ‘learn more’ or ‘not now’.
>>>>>> On Facebook Lite, the options are to turn it on or ‘skip’. If you chose to
>>>>>> turn this feature on, we will begin to continuously log this information,
>>>>>> which can be downloaded at any time using the Download Your Information
>>>>>> tool
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467?helpref=page_content>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If, at any point, you no longer wish to continuously upload this
>>>>>> information, you can easily turn this feature off in your settings
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>. You can also turn
>>>>>> off continuous call and text history logging while keeping contact
>>>>>> uploading enabled. You can also go to this page
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mobile/messenger/contacts/> to see which
>>>>>> contacts you have uploaded from Messenger, and you can delete all contact
>>>>>> information you’ve uploaded from that app should you choose.
>>>>>> We never sell this data, and this feature does not collect the
>>>>>> content of your text messages or calls
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When this feature is enabled, uploading your contacts also allows us
>>>>>> to use information like when a call or text was made or received. This
>>>>>> feature does not collect the content of your calls or text messages. Your
>>>>>> information is securely stored and we do not sell this information to third
>>>>>> parties. You are always in control of the information you share with
>>>>>> Facebook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:29 PM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bigthink.com_news_facebook-2Dhas-2Deven-2Dmore-2Dinformation-2Don-2Deverybody-2Dthan-2Dwe-2Dthought&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=Q0NQKZipOuYa3DG_dMSi0dcSZwBcuCwoGxtkjBJLjko&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon A. Weber
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have an Android phone or device? You might want to read this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BIGTHINK might have thoughts similar to your said friend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android
>>>>>> phones [Updated]
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__arstechnica.com_information-2Dtechnology_2018_03_facebook-2Dscraped-2Dcall-2Dtext-2Dmessage-2Ddata-2Dfor-2Dyears-2Dfrom-2Dandroid-2Dphones_&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=8leTwm8eSfOtCBxtSR8P6cIjt_GGx4UR3Tq0E0SfTTA&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android
>>>>>> phones [...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe check your data archive to see if Facebook’s algorithms know
>>>>>> who you called.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Factual or otherwise? Ars Technica makes reference to an FB rejoiner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should not be lost that even the most basic loyalty card is for
>>>>>> decision making to serve you the customer better - data by the issuer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be blessed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards/Wangari
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> *Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
>>>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
>>>>>> God on Earth".*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 26 March 2018, 08:52:17 GMT+3, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via
>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See my views from a data science, business model and regulatory
>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Data Breach? What Breach- A Watershed Moment
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/ pulse/data-breach-what-breach-
>>>>>> watershed-moment-big-data- scientist
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_pulse_data-2Dbreach-2Dwhat-2Dbreach-2Dwatershed-2Dmoment-2Dbig-2Ddata-2Dscientist&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=k0_3ZTu5BNy2k1zt934oRVmAqgqcQM5E_1eXcxiFjpk&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Coach Timothy Oriedo*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Error! Filename not specified.*timothyoriedo.coach
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timothyoriedo.coach-3Fpromo-3Demail-5Fsig-26utm-5Fsource-3Dproduct-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-5Fsig-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dgmail-5Fapi&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=yxC70TjVB9tMv39uXnahI0ql2CzQze6wxVWGlpJ54VA&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ali,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook was built for and is meant for *sharing*! With time, I have
>>>>>> seen FB make us want to share more and more, recommend to us 'friends' at
>>>>>> every turn and inevitably there will be a clash between the sharing and our
>>>>>> privacy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, there was a time our Newsfeeds were very clean, you'd actually
>>>>>> get to know what your friends were upto, but I do find its now looking
>>>>>> unrecognizable; its become this very noisy marketplace! Or maybe I am
>>>>>> gettitng old :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Privacy unfortunately plays 2nd fiddle to sharing. For me, the straw
>>>>>> that broke the proverbial camels back is seeing photos that I had taken on
>>>>>> my phone already auto-uploaded and semi-shared in my timeline, and with an
>>>>>> absent minded click, I would have shared all on the my timeline!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the app off my phone immediately, but kept the web desktop as I
>>>>>> do continue to use it once in a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also seen that FB has been collecting all our Phone records,
>>>>>> calls + SMS as written about on Verge...
>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2018/ 3/25/17160944/facebook-call-
>>>>>> history-sms-data-collection- android
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theverge.com_2018_3_25_17160944_facebook-2Dcall-2Dhistory-2Dsms-2Ddata-2Dcollection-2Dandroid&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=BJA6pHdAXSfUjg6JVCjo5_wQb4kUWhUO9rU_WMv7gB8&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I guess if you're still using FB on Android, you gotta be
>>>>>> 'strong'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does FB and other Apps synchronize their data policies with those of
>>>>>> the users home country?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you all had a great weekend. Here’s an interesting article on
>>>>>> the ongoing Facebook fallout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Excerpt:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent the evening with a friend who is far bolder than me. Having
>>>>>> deactivated his Facebook
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.email.fortune.com_-3Fqs-3D72be6926f14318baaea3a7380b00c95467207ed12354af5a388d60d1b5ede0afbdd78c249b8c1f825a3519c8563f1652ec3ff8a6232f4164&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=nznclOesLdBW3_L2i-L7U-A6OVh9BpxunfOkC95sp8E&e=> profile
>>>>>> three years ago, he upped the ante this week by deleting his Instagram
>>>>>> account. Even more drastically, he plans officially to *delete* his
>>>>>> long-dormant Facebook account—the last vestige of his serfhood in Mr.
>>>>>> Zuckerberg’s fiefdom—sometime very soon, after his girlfriend has had an
>>>>>> opportunity to port its photos elsewhere. (He prefers offline storage.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read on:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://view.email.fortune.com /?qs=55840ef3733ec70e7bbf70681
>>>>>> a1fdf4ef688af63cc3bc7eef1a6466 871482204b1da0994a47ddc4eb36e5
>>>>>> 5eca2c6a6c64c45c7cb49127419dc5 77951543699845cefb5000f8f8cbb
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__view.email.fortune.com_-3Fqs-3D55840ef3733ec70e7bbf70681a1fdf4ef688af63cc3bc7eef1a6466871482204b1da0994a47ddc4eb36e55eca2c6a6c64c45c7cb49127419dc577951543699845cefb5000f8f8cbb&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=MZmN-rhTGMu54DiPaOMgdPiqrFc7hiT4ICC_tBvjHPw&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=cXuykyCaIJqL64MDFT1Ncv3XTYaa8_rygQByuP77tLA&s=UiDSPcQN2Ml3XDu8YsuVoX4GosqfU8Jy_vwsCzdOSxY&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act
>>>>>> but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> *Regards,*
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Building
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>>>>>> 000
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>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
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>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>>>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>>>>> Building
>>>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811
>>>>> 000
>>>>> www.at.co.ke
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.at.co.ke&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=zy5yVMj_ws-OO1_MggbyIBs4OTmJYuMYFfvfLWKG5IM&s=td3kd6xUmp66jRAh1th9nXUU7QwOrPZOuvdIW4iKICA&e=>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>
>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>>>> Building
>>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
>>>> www.at.co.ke
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>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>
>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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