[kictanet] World's biggest ever digital currency 'theft'

Mon Jan 29 12:09:23 EAT 2018

I don't know. Who is to say what provides value to people? If someone is
willing to pay for it, it's valuable therefore I wouldn't say its a waste
just because it doesn't provide value to me personally. Could that energy
be put to better use? Perhaps.

On 29 January 2018 at 11:45, Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com> wrote:

> That energy has a purpose, and provides value to a consumer somewhere. The
> energy used in “mining a currency” provides no value at all, but is
> calculating sums for no reason other than to control supply of such
> currencies. It’s not to say that banks, data centers or ATMs should not be
> more energy efficient, but it is important to question why a process is
> designed to waste resources.
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> *From:* Sidney Ochieng [mailto:sidney.ochieng at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 10:37 AM
> *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Cc:* Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com>
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> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] World's biggest ever digital currency 'theft'
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> I find numbers like this thrown around without context mean nothing. How
> much of the worlds current energy is used on other financial transactions,
> running banks, credit cards, atms etc? Would anyone say that energy is
> wasted?
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> On 29 January 2018 at 09:41, Adam Lane via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> Let’s not forget the biggest flaw of all with crypto currencies is that
> they depend on basically wasting energy (Which may or may not be
> sustainably produced, even so it could be better used than on crunching
> pointless numbers):
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> ·        *In 2017:*
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>    - *42.67 TWh: The annual energy consumption of Bitcoin and Ethereum
>       combined*
>       - *0.19%: The percentage of the world’s electricity used by Bitcoin
>       and Ethereum*
>       - *8.49: The number of U.S. households that could be powered for a
>       full day with the same energy as single bitcoin transaction*
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> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com at lists.
> kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Admin CampusCiti via kictanet
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2018 6:12 PM
> *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane at huawei.com>
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> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] World's biggest ever digital currency 'theft'
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> Lesson:-
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> That we are not safe anywhere from thieves? :-)
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> Seriously though one of the fundamental flaws of cryptocurrencies is that
> once you have been liberated from your cryptos you have no recourse. This
> is a design flaw that we are all hoping will be resolved. Sooner rather
> than later.
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> On 27 Jan 2018, at 8:53 PM, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> Dear Listers,
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> One of Japan's largest digital currency exchanges says it has lost some
> $534m (£380m) worth of virtual money in a hacking attack on its network.
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> Coincheck suspended deposits and withdrawals for all crypto-currencies
> except Bitcoin as it assessed its losses in NEM, a lesser-known coin. If
> the theft is confirmed, it will be the largest involving digital
> currency. Another Tokyo exchange, MtGox, collapsed in 2014 after admitting
> that $400m had been stolen from its network.
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> Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42845505#
> <http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42845505>
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> What lessons can we learn from this?
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